Any chance you've got a R7 260X in house too? Seeing as it' the fastest Sub $400 card in AMDs stack with TrueAudio and it comes with a free copy of Thief, it's actually kind of interesting. Hopefully the extra ram and clocks make a difference compared to the 7790.
What I was expecting in September? Better products from AMD in the low-mid range sector decimating Nvidia. What we get? R7 240 which is worst than 7730 (320 vs 384 SPs). R7 250 which is much worst than a 7750 (384 vs 512 SPs). Nothing to replace 7750 and 7770 (I don't consider that 260 is replacing 7770) R7 260 which I think will end worst than 7790 (768 vs 896 SPs)
Well, that's clearly your problem then. The 260 costs about the same, is faster, has a slightly better feature set including True Audio and may consume a bit less power - how is that not a replacement? Too much of an improvement?
I will have to see the final price first in my country. I don't know how things are in US or big European countries like Germany or UK, but here in Greece where 7730, 7750, 7770 and 7790 are not extinct from the market, you can still find plenty of models at good prices. Sometimes when a product discontinues you see it's price going up instead of going down because the only remaining pieces in the market are these in the more expensive shops. So, here in Greece, 260X's average price is close to 135 euros, 7790 plays around 115 and 7770 can be found for around 95. The lowest prices for each card are 121-108-87 but with uncertainty about availability. If 260 non X comes at prices around 95 euros, then yes, my problem will be exactly the one you are mentioning. The problem is that I expect 260 over 100 euros.
It is easiest to confuse X with non X that's why they are using it. I was checking 270X's prices and I was happy to see them going down. Then a moment latter I noticed that I was looking at nonX cards. So someone with much less knowledge about PCs will never even notice that X.
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zerockslol - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
graph shows R9 260 ?Ryan Smith - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
The editor responsible for that typo has been beaten with a sock full of ball bearings.THizzle7XU - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
'bout time.:-P
dylan522p - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Good. I never like Ian Cutlass anyways. ^.^IanCutress - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
WTF?! :DRyan Smith - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I'm not sure whether to be insulted that you're getting credit for my work, or relieved that I'm not the one getting hit with a sock full of quarters.skiboysteve - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
hilarious!Gigaplex - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I thought you said it was a sock full of ball bearings...Ryan Smith - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
The editor responsible for THAT typo has been beaten with a sock full of quarters... and then a sock full of ball bearings.Wade_Jensen - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Hahahahmeacupla - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I still don't understand why the distinction between R7 and R9 had to be made in the first place.Flunk - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Marketing people will try anything and it seems to work for Intel.jibberegg - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Working in marketing myself, there's a premium on doing what works, not what makes sense unfortunately.The Von Matrices - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I was hoping that they would at least make use of R5 and R3, but alas, the APUs are all R7.The Von Matrices - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I'd still like to have the R7 250 tested. I have no clue where that fits in performance-wise.Ryan Smith - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Stay tuned. I'm working on that one right now.Mr Perfect - Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - link
Any chance you've got a R7 260X in house too? Seeing as it' the fastest Sub $400 card in AMDs stack with TrueAudio and it comes with a free copy of Thief, it's actually kind of interesting. Hopefully the extra ram and clocks make a difference compared to the 7790.Mr Perfect - Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - link
Wow, make that the fastest sub-$500 card with TrueAudio. Damn Litecoin miners...meacupla - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
presumably, it replaces HD 7750, since that's the fastest low profile card AMD offers.The Von Matrices - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
The speculation is that it's even worse than the 7730, but I would like to see a review to confirm that.yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
What I was expecting in September? Better products from AMD in the low-mid range sector decimating Nvidia.What we get?
R7 240 which is worst than 7730 (320 vs 384 SPs).
R7 250 which is much worst than a 7750 (384 vs 512 SPs).
Nothing to replace 7750 and 7770 (I don't consider that 260 is replacing 7770)
R7 260 which I think will end worst than 7790 (768 vs 896 SPs)
MrSpadge - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
"I don't consider that 260 is replacing 7770"Well, that's clearly your problem then. The 260 costs about the same, is faster, has a slightly better feature set including True Audio and may consume a bit less power - how is that not a replacement? Too much of an improvement?
yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I will have to see the final price first in my country. I don't know how things are in US or big European countries like Germany or UK, but here in Greece where 7730, 7750, 7770 and 7790 are not extinct from the market, you can still find plenty of models at good prices. Sometimes when a product discontinues you see it's price going up instead of going down because the only remaining pieces in the market are these in the more expensive shops.So, here in Greece, 260X's average price is close to 135 euros, 7790 plays around 115 and 7770 can be found for around 95. The lowest prices for each card are 121-108-87 but with uncertainty about availability. If 260 non X comes at prices around 95 euros, then yes, my problem will be exactly the one you are mentioning. The problem is that I expect 260 over 100 euros.
meacupla - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
And then there are also A10-7850k (512 SP) and A10-7770K (384 SP) coming in January for, presumably, less than $150.yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Because of 7850k I am expecting one more card from AMD with 512 SPs.etamin - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
shouldn't the original 7790 bonaire be in the table too?Jimzz - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
The 260x is a 7790 just with a little different clock speed.hojnikb - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Why is amd not making these lowend cards lowprofile by default ?yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
Bonaire is not low end.hojnikb - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
If you put this against r 290 and faster cards, this quickly becomes lowend :)yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
If you put it against HD6450, this quickly looks like a 290. :)extide - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I wish they didn't use the X / non X nomencalture.It woudl have been so much better if it was R7 260 and R7 265 instead of 260 / 260X.
That's my opinion anyways..
Flunk - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I expect the confusion is intentional. GPU marketing seems to be intentionally obtuse and complicated.tipoo - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
I don't get the point of the R9 or R7 designations either, when the other numbers already point to where it is in performance.yannigr - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - link
It is easiest to confuse X with non X that's why they are using it. I was checking 270X's prices and I was happy to see them going down. Then a moment latter I noticed that I was looking at nonX cards. So someone with much less knowledge about PCs will never even notice that X.