What about for just Crossfire? (without Eyefinity). Has there been a driver released that addresses frame pacing for that? I've not kept up with things lately.
It doesn't matter that they don't need Crossfire, I don't feel like having to remember to turn off Crossfire for troublesome DX9 games (and then remember to turn it back on afterwards). It gets rather old quickly
There's also the issue of DX9 Crossfire in notebooks (Integrated + Discrete combination). They generally have less capable GPUs to begin with, such that even in older games you might want to have the extra processing power.
I don't think its an hardware issue per se, but I guess if you think of it that way there is always a possibility of an architecture better suited to minimize pacing issues... but an actual hardware fix, i doubt that.
How about they comment on that BS announcement yesterday dropping 3D completely. Focus on higher res monitors, thats easy to say, they dont need to do anything new to be prepared for 4K, other than building faster chips with more memory which they wouldve needed to do anyway.
I was thinking about going back to the red camp after I saw Mantle, but not anymore.
They shouldve had this fix in 2008, by the way. CrossFire worked great on the 4xxx gen. Thanks AMD!
Seems like 3D will end up an Occulus Rift type experience not the glasses. One day it may be projected but thats no time soon. Why bother supporting it if it doesnt sell, and you cant even control what monitors come out that it would run on. I think a headset full immersion 3d will be more successful than the glasses gimmick, good to cut and run now.
"[A]s fast as they reasonably can." Well, that led to them going from June-July 2013 to July 2013 to August 1st 2013, so I'd say your confidence in their sense of urgency is misplaced.
Then again, this IS the AMD Center, so I guess having a healthy amount of skepticism isn't really on the menu, right?
Origin... Frame pacing issues were present on older Crossfire configs too. It was just generically labeled microstuttering back then. Anyway, they're hard at work to alleviate issues.
Thanks for the update Ryan. I'm glad they are pushing to get these out soon. Now if only they could get their mobile Enduro drivers working for Sandy Bridge systems like they originally said they would...
Haters will hate if CF ever works as intended. TYVM NVIDIA for giving us TCAT and forcing AMD to work on framepacers drivers. Turns out that a tool that NVIDIA devised to undermined AMD market share may ultimately represent the doom of green team, as FCAT gave us a benchmark to remove all subjective fanboyism when comparing the cards. Until august i was advocating SLI 760, but after AMD august driver i am a huge fan of CF 7950 and the next drivers will make things look even harder on NVIDIA.
Seems as if this frame pacing fixes were only applicable to Direct3D (10 and beyond), what about OpenGL? I don't know if their codebase is bad or what, but their performance and compatibility on OpenGL side of things is very low compared to Direct3D. NVIDIA is making a lot of money with professional cards which normally work on OpenGL not Direct3D.
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B3an - Monday, September 30, 2013 - link
What about for just Crossfire? (without Eyefinity). Has there been a driver released that addresses frame pacing for that? I've not kept up with things lately.Ryan Smith - Monday, September 30, 2013 - link
That's been dealt with (for DX10+) since Cat 13.8 (branch 13.200): http://www.anandtech.com/show/7195/amd-frame-pacin...HKP0lice - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
What about DX9 support?heffeque - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
Dx9 games generally don't need Crossfire. Also pending is APU+GPU frame pacing.Trefugl - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
It doesn't matter that they don't need Crossfire, I don't feel like having to remember to turn off Crossfire for troublesome DX9 games (and then remember to turn it back on afterwards). It gets rather old quicklyKevin G - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
For single monitor systems, generally this is true but it should be beneficial for a triple monitor setup and 4K due to the resolution increase.Guppy - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
There's also the issue of DX9 Crossfire in notebooks (Integrated + Discrete combination). They generally have less capable GPUs to begin with, such that even in older games you might want to have the extra processing power.haukionkannel - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
DX9 will come with phase 3 upgrade.HKP0lice - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
Do you have a source for this? ETA on phase 3?stickmansam - Monday, September 30, 2013 - link
Will there be any hardware fixes for the next gen? Like built in frame pacing for like all situationsprasanth - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
I don't think its an hardware issue per se, but I guess if you think of it that way there is always a possibility of an architecture better suited to minimize pacing issues... but an actual hardware fix, i doubt that.Origin64 - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
How about they comment on that BS announcement yesterday dropping 3D completely.Focus on higher res monitors, thats easy to say, they dont need to do anything new to be prepared for 4K, other than building faster chips with more memory which they wouldve needed to do anyway.
I was thinking about going back to the red camp after I saw Mantle, but not anymore.
They shouldve had this fix in 2008, by the way. CrossFire worked great on the 4xxx gen. Thanks AMD!
DT3CH - Saturday, October 5, 2013 - link
Seems like 3D will end up an Occulus Rift type experience not the glasses. One day it may be projected but thats no time soon. Why bother supporting it if it doesnt sell, and you cant even control what monitors come out that it would run on. I think a headset full immersion 3d will be more successful than the glasses gimmick, good to cut and run now.HisDivineOrder - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
"[A]s fast as they reasonably can." Well, that led to them going from June-July 2013 to July 2013 to August 1st 2013, so I'd say your confidence in their sense of urgency is misplaced.Then again, this IS the AMD Center, so I guess having a healthy amount of skepticism isn't really on the menu, right?
Alexvrb - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
Origin... Frame pacing issues were present on older Crossfire configs too. It was just generically labeled microstuttering back then. Anyway, they're hard at work to alleviate issues.Bob Todd - Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - link
Thanks for the update Ryan. I'm glad they are pushing to get these out soon. Now if only they could get their mobile Enduro drivers working for Sandy Bridge systems like they originally said they would...geok1ng - Saturday, October 5, 2013 - link
Haters will hate if CF ever works as intended. TYVM NVIDIA for giving us TCAT and forcing AMD to work on framepacers drivers. Turns out that a tool that NVIDIA devised to undermined AMD market share may ultimately represent the doom of green team, as FCAT gave us a benchmark to remove all subjective fanboyism when comparing the cards. Until august i was advocating SLI 760, but after AMD august driver i am a huge fan of CF 7950 and the next drivers will make things look even harder on NVIDIA.Filiprino - Sunday, October 6, 2013 - link
Seems as if this frame pacing fixes were only applicable to Direct3D (10 and beyond), what about OpenGL?I don't know if their codebase is bad or what, but their performance and compatibility on OpenGL side of things is very low compared to Direct3D.
NVIDIA is making a lot of money with professional cards which normally work on OpenGL not Direct3D.