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  • MFK - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link


    I saw a lot of other tech sites had fluff articles on AMD's Hondo announcement.

    Are you guys working on anything at all?
    Or is there nothing net new to cover?

    I'd love to get more details on what they've accomplished with that family.
  • Klug4Pres - Sunday, November 4, 2012 - link

    Where is Episode 9? Getting desperate, guys. The longer you wait, the better it will have to be.

    Release early; release often!
  • wharris1 - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    can't find in itunes/podcast app
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    click the iTunes link to be redirected to the iTunes store.

    then after selecting and downloading the podcast episodes that you want and waiting for them to download (which may take a while depending on how many you are downloading simultaneously and your connection speed), you want to open up the Podcasts app on your iOS device. then click on the Library button in the top right. you should see it. if not hit the Podcasts button at the bottom (if you are in the Top Stations tab).
  • Peanutsrevenge - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    Seems it's been getting day later each week for the past few weeks, like you're building the anticipation (in me anyway).
  • andykins - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    I'd been having serious Anandtech podcast withdrawal symptoms - thank you! Loved it as usual. Can you guys not get these podcasts in Google Play?
  • ImSpartacus - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Yes, I also noticed that they had a full house and ran over time.

    In the future, might it be possible to do two slightly shorter podcasts with less then the full crew instead of one time-limited podcast with the everyone?

    I feel like this week's material could've been split into two ~90 minute podcasts as long as Mr. Klug was present to keep the banter flowing. Normally, I wouldn't enjoy listening to a technically minded person that talks as much as he does, but everyone that comes out of his mouth seems to be interesting. As long as Mr. Shimpi is there to make sure it doesn't turn into an engineering seminar or an acronym party, I think it would be fine to speak more thoroughly on certain topics.

    In addition multiple podcasts would help andykins and I with our addictions. :)
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    ya. i've been counting the days since the last podcast as i wait for the next.

    keep it up guys! good casual tone with lots of highly technical details.
  • Steve_0 - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    Anand! Many thanks for the new podcast which I'm sure I'll enjoy, but still eagerly awaiting the iPhone 5 review. Seriously, think I've refreshed about a hundred times this week. Was close to just buying one, but apparently they're still out of stock everywhere in the uk :(
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    Ya, I've been waiting for a full iPhone 5 review too.

    I'd also love to hear your guys opinions on the merits of the iPhone 5 as a primary use smartphone vs. the SGS3 and One X(+).

    Considering the OSs and the overall user experience.

    I'm personally on the iOS platform and considerations to switchers in either direction between Android-iOS would be great to hear from honest tech people with real-life experience using the devices, like you guys. If I'm hearing it right as you casually discuss during the podcasts, you each use an iPhone and either Nexus or One X. Does this sound right?

    Looking forward to Podcast 8.
  • Peanutsrevenge - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    LOL.
    I used to be the returns manager for a PC build and distribution company who had all the mats on the desks, floors and shelves, but I was getting a silly amount of RMAs.

    Having looked into it for a bit and ruling many things out and accepting that we were using crap components (PC Chips mobos), I found that all the ESD stuff was eventually running into the main floor mat, which was then not plugged in anywhere.
    Once that was connected to the earth on a power socket (UK here), the failures dropped immediately.

    Hence, I'm still a believer, although the sensitivity seems to have been massively reduced over the past decade, I still tough something earthed before working on my stuff, or strap myself when working on other peoples stuff.
  • moep - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    I really enjoy your podcast, but could you please look into the download speeds of your CDN?

    I’m downloading at 48 KB/s on my 100 Mbit connection and all of my other Podcast downloads are usually capped by my WiFi. (Austria, Europe)

    Thanks!
  • ImSpartacus - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    I stream it with Android's Podkicker over LTE and I can't think of any times that it has stopped to buffer except at the beginning. Could something else be causing problems?
  • Fiercé - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    Just wanted to point out that having a "Podcast" tag would be very useful for organizing these. Plenty of sites use it as standard.

    Is it too late to retroactively add this?
  • sp3x0ps - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    Could you please give me an idea of when to look for the iPhone 5 review? really looking forward to it! Great podcast btw keep it up!
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    My info points to Friday some time, but don't quote me on that. LOL
  • tipoo - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    "My info points to Friday some time, but don't quote me on that."

    -Jarred Walton
  • momoX52 - Thursday, October 11, 2012 - link

    Please keep letting Brian go on tangents. These are often really entertaining and informative. As a side note, with the bare aluminum, it does react very quickly with air. The reason why it doesn't cause any structural issues is because the oxidized layer is extremely thin and seals out any further oxidization beneath the surface.
  • B - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    I completely agree, Brian's tangets are funny and I really learn a lot from them. These Podcasts are fantastic.
  • ImSpartacus - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Yeah, it's amazing how I can't tell the personalities of any of the writers from their writing, but it's easy to figure out the temperaments of Mr Klug and Mr Shimpi from a few podcasts.

    And I, too, love to hear Mr Klug get all engineer-y. I wish there was a transcript (am I getting spoiled?); there's a lot of goldmine quotes that I can't write down because I'm usually exercising. The beryllium telescope quip was hilarious.
  • flyingpants1 - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Actual excerpt from your podcast:

    Guy #1: Hey dude would you recommend the new $2500 Razer Blade notebook?
    Guy #2 *pauses* Yes.
    Guy #3 Well, I looked at the benchmarks and it can't even do 60fps @ 1080p in recent games.
    Guy #2 Oh... well it does 30fps.

    Here's a question. Why do you keep talking about a $2500 notebook (Razer Blade 2)? The Lenovo Y580 has almost identical specs (GeForce 660M and Core i7 Quad 35W) and costs just $800.
  • hulawafu77 - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Well not only that, the Clevo 11" machine with 650M has a solid 5-15 FPS lead on it. It's performance is quite disappointing for 660M. Cooling is not up to par for the hardware.
  • VivekGowri - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Since when? I tested both of them, the Clevo is 10-15fps slower, not faster. Perhaps you're mixing resolutions?
  • nevertell - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Aluminium is a pretty active metal, but just because of that, the oxidation process isn't really anything to worry about, since the oxide of it is pretty inert and uniform. The idea is that once aluminium reacts with oxygen, only the outer layer of the bare aluminium reacts and creates a layer of the oxide, it's almost as if aluminium creates an outer layer to protect itself from further oxidation.
  • Death666Angel - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Also known in material sciences as passivation. :-)
  • Krysto - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Apple should've done what HTC did with the One S, and they wouldn't see any scuffs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPZ7y1EDKvk
  • Brian Klug - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Actually their MAO treatment also flakes off at the edges if subjected to similar stresses. For example the top and bottom where the One S make contact depending on how it sits on a table.

    -Brian
  • Visual - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Any chance for a transcript? I can't be bothered to listen to it, actually I don't even have audio on this computer, but I could skim through a transcript if there were one.
  • Krysto - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    By the way Anand, here's more proof that Apple is serious about building ARM SoC's for Macs:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/10/11/chip-design...
  • ionis - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Where are episodes 5-7?
  • dishayu - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    http://www.anandtech.com/rss/podcastm4a
  • dishayu - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Around 32:30 Brian is such a kid. That was hilarious. :D (I completely 100% agree with his reasoning, but it's funny to listen to)

    And I strongly diagree with Vivek's opinion of "Keys + iPhone = scuffing and that's the user's fault". Phones are MEANT to be kept in pockets, keys are MEANT to be kept in pockets. There are no alternative for either of them. I have done this for years and i've never compromised appearance of any of my phones till date. Apple should pick another material if there is no way to avoid this.
  • repoman27 - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    I dunno, I totally agree with Vivek. All my trousers have at least two pockets, phone and cash go in one, keys, coins and corkscrews go in another.
  • dishayu - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    I keep my wallet in 1 (which is quite large) and everything else in the 2nd pocket. So, my keys and phone go in the same pocket more often than not. Either ways that is not the point, it's just user preference.

    If HTC could make their phones to withstand such things, why should we excuse Apple for it and blame the user in their case? That is just wrong. It's Apple's fault and the user must not be blamed.
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    keys should not destroy a phone.

    dudes sometimes have keys or, especially, change in their pockets and chicks constantly have keys in their purses - let's not forget about half of the population.

    the manufacturer/designer should test for these basic materials and other common materials during QA.

    please don't excuse this just because it's Apple. I mean, yes they generally make great products and as such have a high standing in many people's perspectives, but they need to be held to account when they f up. how else will they continue to have such high standards!?
  • noblemo - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Brian: The source linked below lists the following FCC ID numbers for the new Kindles. I did not have time to look at all the docs; some might be accessories (dock).

    ZHS-1013
    CO2-2105
    YJM-0725
    A8Z-2690
    A8Y-1496

    Source: http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2012/09/08/amazo...
  • Brian Klug - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Oooh, awesome! Thank you, I searched and couldn't find these last week!

    -Brian
  • noblemo - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    You're welcome. The models with dual band Wi-Fi are ZHS-1013 and YJM-0725.

    The documents are filed under third party companies. After taking a closer look I think this is how it breaks down:

    ZHS-1013: Kindle Fire HD 8.9" - WLAN (SISO/MIMO)/Bluetooth 3.0
    CO2-2105: Kindle Fire HD 8.9" 4G - GSM/WCDMA/LTE
    YJM-0725: Kindle Fire HD - WLAN (SISO/MIMO)
    A8Z-2690: Kindle PaperWhite 3G - GSM/WCDMA
    A8Y-1496: Kindle PaperWhite - WLAN
  • pattycake0147 - Friday, October 12, 2012 - link

    Hey guys, love the podcasts, but I rarely have a full two hours to listen. I noticed this one was split about halfway though with the first half talking about pc and the second covering mobile. Is there any chance to have two smaller podcasts each week that have their own topics? Not like I'm going to stop listening, but just a thought I wanted to toss your way.
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    does nobody else have a pause button on their podcast player?
  • ssj3gohan - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    The embedded player is essentially unusable for this type of podcast. I know, I know, I should just download it and listen it locally, but if you're providing a player, please:
    - Physically make it larger, because the granularity with seeking/finding stuff right now is like 2 minutes. I'm not sure how other people listen to this, but I really don't have 2 contiguous hours of free time to listen to the whole thing (but I do want to!).
    - fix the seeking bugs. Sometimes you can seek and it will play fine, sometimes it will just refuse to continue playing after you seek. And when you're looking for exactly the right point with 1-pixel accuracy, there will be a lot of seeking with, consequently, a lot of page-reloading and retrying because the player stopped functioning.
    - Maybe.... just provide a streaming link (like winamp shoutcast) so you don't have to wait to download the whole thing. I have a pretty decent internet connection, but last night when I downloaded the podcast my internet connection was already pretty busy and it took me ~15 minutes to download it before I could listen to it.
    - On that note: encoding VBR will really drastically reduce the filesize.

    Anyway, I love the content, please keep making these. Especially like Brian, I can relate to him very much (I am also always appalled by the apparent lack of optical engineering at optical device manufacturers :P )
  • phillyry - Monday, October 15, 2012 - link

    that's what motivated me to download the podcasts.

    they should focus their time on making cool podcasts and doing work for their articles.

    the crappy drag bar should motivate you to take the 25s to download the podcasts. then your sound will work great for everything else too and you can take them with you on the go!
  • slippysoup - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Really liking the podcast. It makes sitting in traffic on the drive home from work far more enjoyable. I would love to see an article some time on cellular base stations. That kind of stuff is really fascinating.
  • EnzoFX - Saturday, October 13, 2012 - link

    Really glad this is finally getting some real focus. After years of complaining =P. This is one thing, trivial though it may be, I want my next upgrade to significantly improve upon. My old board has a quick boot option, and I do disable anything I don't use, and I have it down to around 10 secs. I've read that ASRock has a significantly better POST time.

    Keep doing POST time benchmarks with all reviews please.
  • ervinshiznit - Sunday, October 14, 2012 - link

    Anand I'm not sure if you already know this but if you don't like Cyberlink for Intel QuickSync you can try MediaCoder.
  • MrCake - Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - link

    Your MechE hasn't designed an aluminum part before, has he? "painted anodization"??? first time I've ever heard that. "it oxidizes a decent portion of the thickness". Wow..., just wow. "if you
    oxidized more you'd have structural integrity issues", absolutely not. "post-anodize machining...otherwise it would be matte. Yes", facepalms. Good god, and I thought journalists were
    bad at explaining this.

    It's not my expertise but I have designed a few hundred aluminum parts, so here's how it probably
    works. The call-out is most likely equivalent to mil-std-171 7.2.2; this is a ~.0005" thickness coat,
    decorative and scratch resistant. The coating itself is super hard, and can only be scratched by harder materials. The problem is the base metal yield strength is still fairly low. Chamfers (yes, we do pronounce the "h") have sharp edges, which make point contacts and therefore have a theoretically infinite contact stresses till they're rounded off. To summarize; small contact areas, equal high pressures even at low forces; pressures over material yield cause deformations, and deformations over .0005" make you see silver. The chamfer finish is probably not a post anodization process,it's diamond ground and has a much finer surface finish. The rest of the phone is cnc milled, and is matte from either a sandblasting, or vibratory media process to remove machining marks. Anodize surfaces are as glossy/matte as their surface finish. And as to the "structural integrity" concern repeated, and repeated, and repeated; The iphone is thin, but the anodize coating is a couple orders of magnitude thinner and has negligible affect on structural integrity.

    A possible fix would be mil-std-171 7.5.2 Anodize Type III which is an anodized hardcoat. It's a
    similar process but coats to .002" thick, packs it's molecules much denser, and can pass a hardness test to rockwell C60. It's a reasonable response to the scratching issue, however it may not be appropriate for other reasons(prone to cracking instead of scratching, tolerance issues, more costly, less pretty.)
  • peter123 - Thursday, October 18, 2012 - link

    Hey, for the next podcast you could talk about the samsung chrome netbook running on the arm cortex A15 Exynos5!
  • creed3020 - Friday, October 19, 2012 - link

    Keep 'em coming guys! Each week I look forward to his podcast as some good morning listening while I work. Thank You!
  • phy_lbc - Friday, October 19, 2012 - link

    Hey, I wonder if you guys (Brian, Anand, Ian, any other Brit) could cover this on the next podcast. Everything Everywhere (merger of T-Mobile UK and Orange in the UK) are to deploy their 4G LTE network on October 30th using the re-farmed 1800Mhz spectrum from the 2G frequencies of T-Mobile UK and Orange UK. What I wanted to know is what will happen to everyone who is still using 2G on T-Mobile UK? There's no information online about this. Would they upgrade people who only have 2G phones to 3G phones or something? Wouldn't they have to give current customers notice before they kick everyone off 2G?
  • Peanutsrevenge - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - link

    That's a good point.
    Not sure how they'd know who/where to contact people to inform them though.
    Those on <3G devices will obviously be PAYG and few would have registered the sim anyway.

    Hhmmm, I do have a mate that's still got an old ass phone he refuses to upgrade, I think it's on Orange, will have to get hold of him to check and see if it dies when we get 4G in Bournemouth (I hope to god it does so we don't have to look at the thing any more).
  • smalM - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    Happy chrunching Anand!
  • aravindbappanadu - Friday, November 2, 2012 - link

    Listened to all the podcasts over the last week. Love it! Keep up the good work.
  • SpitUK - Tuesday, November 6, 2012 - link

    When is the next one??? Love your podcasts!
  • watersb - Sunday, December 30, 2012 - link

    Trying to catch up before 2012 ends. Great stuff. Thanks very much for these podcasts!

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