I am not sure there is much benefit from an "all-in-one" setups. If it's that low profile it could easily fit in a thin little platform that the monitor could stand on. I am just wondering how many LCD manufacturers are going to get on board with this & how much of a premium it will be to get an "all-in-one" ready LCD. There is probably a niche for it, but it'll probably be pricier, ruining one of the benefits of DIY.
This is just plain silly design. You have these issues : 1) the need for an internal header for monitor connection - no standard. 2) cooling - either the cooler grows sideways, or upwards. Either way it takes space. 3) 24 pin ATX power connector is as high as the old back panel. What`s the point of making the back panel smaller if the internals are still taller than it. This suggests the need for a new power/ATX connector. 4) the PCI-E slot - what`s the point of the PCI slot when there is NOTHING you can put in it (there`s no cards only 25 mm tall !!) 5) LACK of features. The current crop mini-ITX boards are amazing - they have USB 3.0, wireless, DVI-VGA-HDMI, absolutely everything you need. This boards is a step back in time to 2005. 6) PSU - this board will require an external power pack. Geez, it's not like I already have too many power bricks all over the place, another one wil be great. /SARCASM 7) This board is only 19mm thinner. All these problems for 19mm ?? CRAZY
I'm late on this, but : 1) There is a well-established standard for an internal monitor connection. It's actually a connection that goes directly to the LCD panel, just like in laptops, it's called LVDS. You can see the connector at the top of the first image. 2) cooler can go sideways, as there is enough room (mini-ITX is a lot smaller than a 17-24" display) 3) the article reads "The power connector is also a standard." ; there is an external power connector, it's powered by a brick 4) you don't need big components in a all-in-one. if you need dual slot graphics cards, you'll get a midi tower and be done 5) there will be different set of features on different boards, there are no restrictions on this 6) that's true 7) lol
Well if they add a 90 degree pci-e 16 slot to the RH side of the board then they'ed have a buyer here straight away.
I'm currently halfway through a build that involves hacking a 2U Server Chassis to pieces to give me suitable case to build on the back of my 26" monitor. At the mo I've using a MATX board with a move soon to ITX, but this would be ideal
This comment is a little late, but I was curious how your hacked 26" all-in-one PC was coming along. I work for NextComputing and we've been looking at coming out with a high-end, upgradeale All-In-One, either something with ATX or Micro-ATX, a Thin Mini-ITX design, or both. What's your take on this sort of thing and if there would be other guys besides you that might want something like this? Hit me up at asherman [at] nextcomputing [dot] com if you want to talk more about it. I'm intrigued...
I don't getbthe cooling solution. It takes a tiny board and increases the footprint in both length and width. I guess it soils bending on the back of a monitor, but I was thinking they'd want to.sell this to HTPC crowds as well. Maybe there's more than one cooling option?
Now that we have seen the cooling solution, we know that Intel has no intention of having discrete graphics on this platform.
This platform could have housed a dual-slot graphics card if it was using a 90 degree adapter, like in server cases. The CPU cooling fan and heat-sink are off the edge of the board in the space that would house the graphics card.
If they had wanted to leave room for a card along the same plane as the motherboard, they would have made the CPU cooling fan sit off the back of the board (away from the I/O plate), facing up or down.
If you look closely, you'll see that you can mount the HSF either to the expansion slot edge of the mobo or the edge opposite the IO plate. The CPU socket is spaced the same distance from both these edges. It's still possible to produce the same design with a 90' PCIe slot.
Done right, this permits an invisible pc that that functions on request from wireless devices. You see no pc, no messy wires, but its there whenever you want it and it will never be a superb gaming platform. Cover your ears because it hurts to hear: it's mom friendly.
Seems that since there ARE 3 "free edges" someone - anyone please - could use them in a more efficient - elegant manner, eh? Totally agree put the HSF opposite the back plane... a Corsair H50-60 mounted flat x16 slot @90 off one edge would be great - single or dual slot x1 slot @90 off opposite edge for a tuner card, REVO, sound card, what have you.. mPCIe slots for wifi + SSD (310). could use more of them, why only 1?? Stack them! This would give a solid surface to mount the board surrounded by top and bottom vents on 3 sides - who could complain about air flow then? This config would keep all heat away from the mobo. Also eliminate some of the cable clutter. As for an AIO they need to be flat, width and length smaller than a 19" monitor would also lend itself for placement on a bookshelf. Stand alone BluRay or DVD players are wide, shallow and 2" thin. LIan Li could then create a "briefcase" with a flip up monitor. Borrow concepts from lap tops. It's nice to hear others are thinking outside the "box"... ok so real estate is limited but they could do it if they wanted to. That's a HUGE IF...
A brick powersupply (19v or 12 V are perfect) on 1U platform. Now If they can come up with a cheap video / no audio but with RAID SIL based SATA2/3 headers. for less than one benjamin I'm all over it like flies on a wet dung.
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Klinky1984 - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
I am not sure there is much benefit from an "all-in-one" setups. If it's that low profile it could easily fit in a thin little platform that the monitor could stand on. I am just wondering how many LCD manufacturers are going to get on board with this & how much of a premium it will be to get an "all-in-one" ready LCD. There is probably a niche for it, but it'll probably be pricier, ruining one of the benefits of DIY.CSMR - Saturday, June 4, 2011 - link
There is always some noise, even in fanless setups. Behind the monitor, less noise is heard by the user and there is better damping.Gozza - Sunday, June 5, 2011 - link
This is just plain silly design. You have these issues :1) the need for an internal header for monitor connection - no standard.
2) cooling - either the cooler grows sideways, or upwards. Either way it takes space.
3) 24 pin ATX power connector is as high as the old back panel. What`s the point of making the back panel smaller if the internals are still taller than it. This suggests the need for a new power/ATX connector.
4) the PCI-E slot - what`s the point of the PCI slot when there is NOTHING you can put in it (there`s no cards only 25 mm tall !!)
5) LACK of features. The current crop mini-ITX boards are amazing - they have USB 3.0, wireless, DVI-VGA-HDMI, absolutely everything you need. This boards is a step back in time to 2005.
6) PSU - this board will require an external power pack. Geez, it's not like I already have too many power bricks all over the place, another one wil be great. /SARCASM
7) This board is only 19mm thinner. All these problems for 19mm ?? CRAZY
magneticfield - Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - link
I'm late on this, but :1) There is a well-established standard for an internal monitor connection. It's actually a connection that goes directly to the LCD panel, just like in laptops, it's called LVDS.
You can see the connector at the top of the first image.
2) cooler can go sideways, as there is enough room (mini-ITX is a lot smaller than a 17-24" display)
3) the article reads "The power connector is also a standard." ; there is an external power connector, it's powered by a brick
4) you don't need big components in a all-in-one. if you need dual slot graphics cards, you'll get a midi tower and be done
5) there will be different set of features on different boards, there are no restrictions on this
6) that's true
7) lol
Cullinaire - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
A stock Intel cooler that doesn't use push-pins?You don't say.
softdrinkviking - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
i don't think that's stock. the aftermarket box is in the background. :(Guthy - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
Well if they add a 90 degree pci-e 16 slot to the RH side of the board then they'ed have a buyer here straight away.I'm currently halfway through a build that involves hacking a 2U Server Chassis to pieces to give me suitable case to build on the back of my 26" monitor. At the mo I've using a MATX board with a move soon to ITX, but this would be ideal
ASHERMAN - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
This comment is a little late, but I was curious how your hacked 26" all-in-one PC was coming along. I work for NextComputing and we've been looking at coming out with a high-end, upgradeale All-In-One, either something with ATX or Micro-ATX, a Thin Mini-ITX design, or both. What's your take on this sort of thing and if there would be other guys besides you that might want something like this? Hit me up at asherman [at] nextcomputing [dot] com if you want to talk more about it. I'm intrigued...MonkeyPaw - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
I don't getbthe cooling solution. It takes a tiny board and increases the footprint in both length and width. I guess it soils bending on the back of a monitor, but I was thinking they'd want to.sell this to HTPC crowds as well. Maybe there's more than one cooling option?Doltmoopsie - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
Now that we have seen the cooling solution, we know that Intel has no intention of having discrete graphics on this platform.This platform could have housed a dual-slot graphics card if it was using a 90 degree adapter, like in server cases. The CPU cooling fan and heat-sink are off the edge of the board in the space that would house the graphics card.
If they had wanted to leave room for a card along the same plane as the motherboard, they would have made the CPU cooling fan sit off the back of the board (away from the I/O plate), facing up or down.
alaricljs - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
If you look closely, you'll see that you can mount the HSF either to the expansion slot edge of the mobo or the edge opposite the IO plate. The CPU socket is spaced the same distance from both these edges. It's still possible to produce the same design with a 90' PCIe slot.MadAd - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
if theyre going mess with the format footprint it would be more use if it had some kind of sideways pci-e capabilityMadAd - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
looking at that fan is making me grimace, looks like a noisy buggerdealcorn - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
Done right, this permits an invisible pc that that functions on request from wireless devices. You see no pc, no messy wires, but its there whenever you want it and it will never be a superb gaming platform. Cover your ears because it hurts to hear: it's mom friendly.lestr - Wednesday, June 1, 2011 - link
Seems that since there ARE 3 "free edges" someone - anyone please - could use them in a more efficient - elegant manner, eh?Totally agree put the HSF opposite the back plane... a Corsair H50-60 mounted flat
x16 slot @90 off one edge would be great - single or dual slot
x1 slot @90 off opposite edge for a tuner card, REVO, sound card, what have you..
mPCIe slots for wifi + SSD (310). could use more of them, why only 1?? Stack them!
This would give a solid surface to mount the board surrounded by top and bottom vents on 3 sides - who could complain about air flow then? This config would keep all heat away from the mobo. Also eliminate some of the cable clutter.
As for an AIO they need to be flat, width and length smaller than a 19" monitor would also lend itself for placement on a bookshelf. Stand alone BluRay or DVD players are wide, shallow and 2" thin.
LIan Li could then create a "briefcase" with a flip up monitor. Borrow concepts from lap tops.
It's nice to hear others are thinking outside the "box"... ok so real estate is limited but they could do it if they wanted to. That's a HUGE IF...
zshift - Thursday, June 2, 2011 - link
If AMD decided to adopt this platform for Fusion, my prayers would be answered. The absolute HTPC, in the smallest form factorteekblang - Monday, June 13, 2011 - link
A brick powersupply (19v or 12 V are perfect) on 1U platform. Now If they can come up with a cheap video / no audio but with RAID SIL based SATA2/3 headers. for less than one benjamin I'm all over it like flies on a wet dung.henhaohenhao - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
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