Continuing to use 8th gen on the two port models is a bummer. Chip constrained maybe? I'd hope it's not an artificial gimp, it's a weird lineup because the Air is also all on 10th gen now, which had better single threaded and GPU performance (in a burst) than the 8th gen Pros.
I am hoping that a lack of availability is the reason. That is the only decent reason imo. Even still it is not great that they are still selling old chips.
It makes the two port Pro such an awkward model. On a sustained load it'll beat the Air, but the Air was faster than the 8th gen Pros in single threaded and GPU bursts. For someone with modest needs I'd recommend the quad core Air, for a CPU upgrade you'd have to go all the way up to the four port Pro, I can't see where I'd ever recommend the awkward middle child.
Except the Air has the clever 'fan that does nothing' setup, so for that reason alone, the Pro is probably the better buy as it's actually engineered properly.
It does suggest that Intel couldn't guarantee enough higher-end IceLakes (15-28W) for Apple's expected 13" MBP sales volume. Sure, plenty of 12W i3s and i5s for the MBAs.
Which as that isn't overly massive, is not a good sign regarding Intel's 10nm volume/yield.
Maybe they're busy fabbing TigerLakes for September.
It seems that 10nm compared to a 14nm+++++ brings lower consumption but also lower clock speed. It is not obvious that the 10th gen is "better" than the 8th.
Well they've been using the 5th gen chip for MacBook Air for nearly 5 years foking years (Early 2015 - July 2019) So I'm not surprised that Apple do this crap again at all. I guess apple played a big role on keeping intel at 14nm
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i wouldnt really call it a laptop. its that thing that apple thinks should come no ports and no functional keyboard. And it seems apple customers are fine with it. i am happy for them. but resent the label.
w/- reading my replies cause i know they are hostile. i'll say this. that comment wasnt one my best. but there is no edit feature.
but there is one thing that me and my now "followers" agree. I try to be provocative. the diff is they think its awful. i think its a good thing. I absolutely DO TRY to post provocative thoughts and its a good thing and its the job of a "free thinking" comment section. its something the tech press would never do with their name on it. and a free thinking community is all that stands between us and "group think"
If taken in a bubble of Apple-only devices then yes, it is an upgrade over the previous version. Unfortunately, there are a lot of other non-Apple options out there and they make this seem rather underwhelming to say the least given the price for the specifications.
So nothing is better except the things that are better? Like the CPU, Max RAM capacity, max SSD capacity, screen, trackpad, 4 integrated Thunderbolt 3 ports, etc...
Reasonable upgrade you say? 13" Razer ultrabook for the same 1800$ you get extra a 120Hz display, core i7 10th gen, GTX 1650 Ti 4GB. Bonus, no touchbar.
Just reading that out loud, you should already know battery life isn't going to be comparable. And indeed it's about half of that of the MBP 13, before this update.
The 4K screen also pushes it above the Ice Lake MBP 13's price for that config.
Would I argue that Apple offers the most for the money, never, but these comparisons never seem to be Apples to, er, Apple. I think Dell can come the closest on configurations to the Macbook Pro, and once you spec it out the price is also nearly identical to Apple.
If you want a dedicated GPU and don't care about battery life, I'm sure the Stealth is awesome, but the smaller macbook pros are more battery than GPU for sure, just a completely different optimization target.
Tipoo, if you don't game Optimus assures you that the battery life will be more than decent. The GTX is there just in case. Also the config I referenced does not have a 4k screen but a fhd one. Your link points to the 4k screen.
Any idea why it's not using Ice Lake's onboard wifi 6 support? They'd have to design antennas around it but it seems weird that they'd pay for one extra chip while supporting one wifi generation lower?
Power consumption, AirDrop, Handoff, Apple Watch unlock, lots of reasons. Apple has seriously customized their Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stacks around Broadcom based modules. Plus they have no interest in giving Intel silicon a larger slice of the BOM at this juncture.
No 14". I guess its waiting either for Tigerlake or A14 based soc for Mac. Considering we can get Windows laptops for half this price, MBP is way too expensive. Only thing is this is the 1st 28W Icelake. the high end is 1068G7. Let us see how benchmarks are.
Actually in Germany it's quite hard to find a Windows laptop with Ice Lake CPU and 32 GB of RAM. The only variants I see all have 1065G7 and are Dell's XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 1TB or XPS 13 9300 2TB for ~2500 EUR and Microsoft's Surface Laptop 3 15" Commercial 1TB for ~2700 EUR. Definitely Apple would cost more with ~3100 for 1TB and ~3600 for 2TB, but difference is far from 2 times and as you said you are finally getting 28W Icelake 1068G7.
Someone ALWAYS post something like this. PROVE IT. You aren't going to get a Windows laptop in this form factor, with this screen quality, with these battery life, with these specs, for half this price. It doesn't exist. There are plenty of Windows laptops with similar performance at half the price, but they are big and clunky. A thin and light Windows laptop with the same specs as these Macbooks costs the same as these Macbooks.
I don't know why I even bother to click on Apple news. Used to be my favorite company. Was waiting for Ice Lake, at the $1299 price point (which is already several hundred more than the Windows competition with those CPUs). $1799? What a joke.
One of the reasons I'm not interested in Apple anymore is the U.S. dollar issue. If you're not American, you're laughing at the prices. Ice Lake starts at $2400 in Canada. That's a new record for Apple, like the $8000 Mac Pro starting price. The same CPU basically comes in a $700 to $1300 Laptop in Canada (like Surface 3, not a cheap laptop). They don't want to sell any products in Canada apparently.
In 2014 I bought my 15" new for the minimum Ice Lake 13" cost. The CAD life is the sad life sometimes, but outside of swallowing lower margins that one's out of their control, and everything comparable is equally expensive (kit out an XPS 13" vs the MBP"
The point is there are many Ice Lake laptops available at reasonable prices in Canada, only Apple outright released a "new" Macbook which is just the old one with a fixed keyboard, and if you want the actual CPU upgrade you waited years for, they raised the price all the way to $2400. The other models aren't new in my opinion.
Waited a year for Ice Lake to come to the Macbook Pro 13", they don't even put it in the $1299 model. LOL can't make this up. I'm done. Not even going to look at Apple ever again.
I'm disappointed by that too, but I do see the possibility that it's a chip constraint, as an individual model the 13" base Pro likely outsells all the flagships of the HPs and Dells of the world.
I mean Apple charges an extra $700 CAD for basically the same CPU in the upgraded Air, but in the 13" pro now. This was on the very high side of my expectations for the Pro refresh.
So the upgraded CPU is the 28W i7-1068G7 finally showing itself after months and months.
I would guess that makes the entry model something like an i5-1038G7 or some such - the 1035G7 is a 15W 4c8t 1.2-3.7 GHz SKU, which would make a theoretical 28W 1038G7 at 2/3.8GHz a similar step up as the 1068G7 is from the 1065G7.
I think he meant the entry-level 4-port model. That does seem to be an i5-1038G7, which is not part of Intel’s published roadmap. However, Apple ordered bespoke chips for the Air, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they did so for the pro.
Coffee Lake. The entry level models are using 15W CFL-U 4+3e chips, which are only found in MacBook Pros and only saw the light of day in July of last year.
The higher end models use 28W ICL-U(N) CPUs. No other OEM has released a product with these processors yet.
The MacBook Air uses 9-10W ICL-YN chips, which also appear to be an Apple exclusive at this time.
If you’re going to bitch so loudly about the CPUs in Apple products, you might take a moment to figure out what’s actually in them, and that Microsoft and Dell do not currently offer devices with the same processors.
As noted by several people here, I was talking about the entry-level 4-port machine. This ought to be obvious - the 2- and 4-port models are different products, after all, which means the i7-1068G7 is in no way an "upgrade" from the 2-port machine. It's the next model up in the stack. The interesting part here is the unannounced ICL CPU, not the old rewarmed Coffee Lake (kind of fitting how rewarmed coffee is disgusting I guess).
I doubt it - the i7-1068G7 was announced back at the ICL announcement and has been MIA ever since, so it would be weird for them to make another SKU just for this when a matching one is already announced. Though stranger things have of course happened.
1.4 kg??? Many 13" business laptop PCs, e.g. thinkpad or elite book, with military grade durability weight less than that. They are cheaper than macbook pro too.
Apple's custom EFI likely wouldn't be ready. Apple also surely hasn't done any work with AMD-V. That's a lot of work for a product that'll be replaced with an ARM version in 2 years.
Yeah I never paid attention to Macs because they seem the most replaceable among Apple devices(the least being iPP), so in light of your comment "**an addition** of a 3.5mm headphone jack" is a highly misleading way to phrase this, the correct way would be "the continued inclusion of a 3.5mm headphone jack". However this just leaves more to hate about Apple because on the contrary it does not show that they repent.
I heard the part is a Core i5-1038NG7 and i7-1068NG7, the first is a custom for Apple, the second is a slight modification of the standard 1068G7 that no one has used thus far.
Maybe there is a reason Apple wants to switch to its own processor in the future. Then they can dictate upgrade speed themselves and not let Intel run the show.
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tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Continuing to use 8th gen on the two port models is a bummer. Chip constrained maybe? I'd hope it's not an artificial gimp, it's a weird lineup because the Air is also all on 10th gen now, which had better single threaded and GPU performance (in a burst) than the 8th gen Pros.Soppro - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Indeed it is weird, perhaps they couldn't secure enough of those 10nm chips from Intel?ingwe - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I am hoping that a lack of availability is the reason. That is the only decent reason imo. Even still it is not great that they are still selling old chips.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
It makes the two port Pro such an awkward model. On a sustained load it'll beat the Air, but the Air was faster than the 8th gen Pros in single threaded and GPU bursts. For someone with modest needs I'd recommend the quad core Air, for a CPU upgrade you'd have to go all the way up to the four port Pro, I can't see where I'd ever recommend the awkward middle child.plewis00 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Except the Air has the clever 'fan that does nothing' setup, so for that reason alone, the Pro is probably the better buy as it's actually engineered properly.tipoo - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
"On a sustained load it'll beat the Air". But for most bursty work the Air would come ahead, which makes the choice between them a little weird.psychobriggsy - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
It does suggest that Intel couldn't guarantee enough higher-end IceLakes (15-28W) for Apple's expected 13" MBP sales volume. Sure, plenty of 12W i3s and i5s for the MBAs.Which as that isn't overly massive, is not a good sign regarding Intel's 10nm volume/yield.
Maybe they're busy fabbing TigerLakes for September.
yankeeDDL - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
It seems that 10nm compared to a 14nm+++++ brings lower consumption but also lower clock speed. It is not obvious that the 10th gen is "better" than the 8th.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
The higher wattage 28W model gets the 10th gen, while the 15W model does not, and also the sub 10W Air has 10th gen.In this class it would definitely have been an improvement for the 15W model.
Deicidium369 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
higher IPC on Ice Lake. So a lower clocked Ice Lake can easily best a higher clocked 14nmsor - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I doubt higher enough IPC to make up a 300/400mhz deficit in clock. Intel hasn’t been making those kids of IPC gains recently.Jorgp2 - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
?It's a 20% improvement in IPC, compared to and that has been closer to 5-10% with Zen+ and Zen2.
Valantar - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
All your numbers are (a bit) off. ICL over SKL is ~18%. Zen+ over Zen is ~2-3%. Zen 2 over Zen+ is ~15%.FakThisShttyGame - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Well they've been using the 5th gen chip for MacBook Air for nearly 5 years foking years (Early 2015 - July 2019) So I'm not surprised that Apple do this crap again at all. I guess apple played a big role on keeping intel at 14nmlouisemunderwood - Saturday, May 9, 2020 - link
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i wouldnt really call it a laptop. its that thing that apple thinks should come no ports and no functional keyboard. And it seems apple customers are fine with it. i am happy for them. but resent the label.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
You are aware this news release means the last butterfly keyboard is gone? What's non functional about this keyboard?Touchbar is still a preference most seem to rather be without, but the reliability issues are behind us.
azfacea - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
the keyboard is useless. its too thin it might as well be a touchpadFakThisShttyGame - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
They switched back to the old keyboard for this model and it feels great unlike the paper keys last yeardarwinosx - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
You win dumb internet comment of the day.Cygni - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I know you didn't read the article, but four USB-C ports is more than I've seen on anybody elses Ice Lake laptops, and all four are TB3 to boot...azfacea - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
i had a macbook pro in 2017 at work with 4 USB-C ports and precisely zero USB-C equipment. so i carried a several adapters with me all the time.azfacea - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
w/- reading my replies cause i know they are hostile. i'll say this. that comment wasnt one my best. but there is no edit feature.but there is one thing that me and my now "followers" agree. I try to be provocative. the diff is they think its awful. i think its a good thing. I absolutely DO TRY to post provocative thoughts and its a good thing and its the job of a "free thinking" comment section. its something the tech press would never do with their name on it. and a free thinking community is all that stands between us and "group think"
GreenReaper - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - link
It is awful. Please stop thinking so freely.BedfordTim - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Wow. A physical Escape key. Innovation indeed.Valantar - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
No, not innovation. "Courage".lilo777 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
That's why they call it a Magic Keyboard!jabber - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
So...dull!darwinosx - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Read the article you are communing on. It's a substantial upgrade from the previous version in many way.PeachNCream - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
If taken in a bubble of Apple-only devices then yes, it is an upgrade over the previous version. Unfortunately, there are a lot of other non-Apple options out there and they make this seem rather underwhelming to say the least given the price for the specifications.Deicidium369 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Yeah lot of meh here - nothing here is any better than the Ice Lakes from Dell last year... Seems like they may be getting the 1068G7 as an option.repoman27 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
So nothing is better except the things that are better? Like the CPU, Max RAM capacity, max SSD capacity, screen, trackpad, 4 integrated Thunderbolt 3 ports, etc...psychobriggsy - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
The $1799 version is a reasonable upgrade with the 16GB fast memory, upgraded processor, and so on.The $1299 / $1499 version is less exciting - same old processor, same old RAM, a bit more storage and the major feature is a 'working keyboard'.
Feels like a stopgap until the ARM Macs next year.
id4andrei - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Reasonable upgrade you say?13" Razer ultrabook for the same 1800$ you get extra a 120Hz display, core i7 10th gen, GTX 1650 Ti 4GB. Bonus, no touchbar.
tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Just reading that out loud, you should already know battery life isn't going to be comparable. And indeed it's about half of that of the MBP 13, before this update.https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-Blade-Stealth-...
The 4K screen also pushes it above the Ice Lake MBP 13's price for that config.
Would I argue that Apple offers the most for the money, never, but these comparisons never seem to be Apples to, er, Apple. I think Dell can come the closest on configurations to the Macbook Pro, and once you spec it out the price is also nearly identical to Apple.
If you want a dedicated GPU and don't care about battery life, I'm sure the Stealth is awesome, but the smaller macbook pros are more battery than GPU for sure, just a completely different optimization target.
id4andrei - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Tipoo, if you don't game Optimus assures you that the battery life will be more than decent. The GTX is there just in case. Also the config I referenced does not have a 4k screen but a fhd one. Your link points to the 4k screen.lmcd - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Optimus laptops are never as good as advertised. It's an imperfect solution that is regularly flawed in implementation as welltipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Any idea why it's not using Ice Lake's onboard wifi 6 support? They'd have to design antennas around it but it seems weird that they'd pay for one extra chip while supporting one wifi generation lower?brookheather - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Because Apple only use Broadcom for their wireless chips - there are no Intel wireless drivers for macOS (which is a shame for Hackintoshers...)tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
The question behind the question there would be - why would they not develop wifi drivers when it was going to be built into the platform anyways?A lot of things from Macs recently are starting to seem like "why bother" mentality when everything is coming up ARMbook in the end
repoman27 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Power consumption, AirDrop, Handoff, Apple Watch unlock, lots of reasons. Apple has seriously customized their Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stacks around Broadcom based modules. Plus they have no interest in giving Intel silicon a larger slice of the BOM at this juncture.trivik12 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
No 14". I guess its waiting either for Tigerlake or A14 based soc for Mac. Considering we can get Windows laptops for half this price, MBP is way too expensive. Only thing is this is the 1st 28W Icelake. the high end is 1068G7. Let us see how benchmarks are.chrkv - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Actually in Germany it's quite hard to find a Windows laptop with Ice Lake CPU and 32 GB of RAM. The only variants I see all have 1065G7 and are Dell's XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 1TB or XPS 13 9300 2TB for ~2500 EUR and Microsoft's Surface Laptop 3 15" Commercial 1TB for ~2700 EUR. Definitely Apple would cost more with ~3100 for 1TB and ~3600 for 2TB, but difference is far from 2 times and as you said you are finally getting 28W Icelake 1068G7.rrinker - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Someone ALWAYS post something like this. PROVE IT. You aren't going to get a Windows laptop in this form factor, with this screen quality, with these battery life, with these specs, for half this price. It doesn't exist. There are plenty of Windows laptops with similar performance at half the price, but they are big and clunky. A thin and light Windows laptop with the same specs as these Macbooks costs the same as these Macbooks.Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I don't know why I even bother to click on Apple news. Used to be my favorite company. Was waiting for Ice Lake, at the $1299 price point (which is already several hundred more than the Windows competition with those CPUs). $1799? What a joke.ROG G14 with Ryzen, here I come.
Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
One of the reasons I'm not interested in Apple anymore is the U.S. dollar issue. If you're not American, you're laughing at the prices. Ice Lake starts at $2400 in Canada. That's a new record for Apple, like the $8000 Mac Pro starting price. The same CPU basically comes in a $700 to $1300 Laptop in Canada (like Surface 3, not a cheap laptop). They don't want to sell any products in Canada apparently.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
In 2014 I bought my 15" new for the minimum Ice Lake 13" cost. The CAD life is the sad life sometimes, but outside of swallowing lower margins that one's out of their control, and everything comparable is equally expensive (kit out an XPS 13" vs the MBP"Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
The point is there are many Ice Lake laptops available at reasonable prices in Canada, only Apple outright released a "new" Macbook which is just the old one with a fixed keyboard, and if you want the actual CPU upgrade you waited years for, they raised the price all the way to $2400. The other models aren't new in my opinion.Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Waited a year for Ice Lake to come to the Macbook Pro 13", they don't even put it in the $1299 model. LOL can't make this up. I'm done. Not even going to look at Apple ever again.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I'm disappointed by that too, but I do see the possibility that it's a chip constraint, as an individual model the 13" base Pro likely outsells all the flagships of the HPs and Dells of the world.s.yu - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
...combined?Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I mean Apple charges an extra $700 CAD for basically the same CPU in the upgraded Air, but in the 13" pro now. This was on the very high side of my expectations for the Pro refresh.Alistair - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
I guess we're both hoping for ARM to save Apple's Mac division from ridicule. I'm not holding my breath anymore.Valantar - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
So the upgraded CPU is the 28W i7-1068G7 finally showing itself after months and months.I would guess that makes the entry model something like an i5-1038G7 or some such - the 1035G7 is a 15W 4c8t 1.2-3.7 GHz SKU, which would make a theoretical 28W 1038G7 at 2/3.8GHz a similar step up as the 1068G7 is from the 1065G7.
Alistair - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
It says right in the article, the entry level is the old comet lake.KPOM - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I think he meant the entry-level 4-port model. That does seem to be an i5-1038G7, which is not part of Intel’s published roadmap. However, Apple ordered bespoke chips for the Air, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they did so for the pro.repoman27 - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Coffee Lake. The entry level models are using 15W CFL-U 4+3e chips, which are only found in MacBook Pros and only saw the light of day in July of last year.The higher end models use 28W ICL-U(N) CPUs. No other OEM has released a product with these processors yet.
The MacBook Air uses 9-10W ICL-YN chips, which also appear to be an Apple exclusive at this time.
If you’re going to bitch so loudly about the CPUs in Apple products, you might take a moment to figure out what’s actually in them, and that Microsoft and Dell do not currently offer devices with the same processors.
Valantar - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
As noted by several people here, I was talking about the entry-level 4-port machine. This ought to be obvious - the 2- and 4-port models are different products, after all, which means the i7-1068G7 is in no way an "upgrade" from the 2-port machine. It's the next model up in the stack. The interesting part here is the unannounced ICL CPU, not the old rewarmed Coffee Lake (kind of fitting how rewarmed coffee is disgusting I guess).repoman27 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Yep. I’d even go out on a limb and say they’re not just ICL-U 28W, but also ICL-UN 28W. Maybe Core i7-1068NG7 and Core i5-1038NG7?Valantar - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
I doubt it - the i7-1068G7 was announced back at the ICL announcement and has been MIA ever since, so it would be weird for them to make another SKU just for this when a matching one is already announced. Though stranger things have of course happened.Valantar - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
Never mind, you were right: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Geekbench-confirms-n...zamroni - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
1.4 kg???Many 13" business laptop PCs, e.g. thinkpad or elite book, with military grade durability weight less than that. They are cheaper than macbook pro too.
diehardmacfan - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
current day thinkpads with "military grade durability" .. lol what?MonkeyPaw - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
It’s a shame Apple didn’t ever take a chance on Ryzen. The mobile 4000 series would have been awesome in the MBP.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
I'd love to see it. I don't expect we will, sticking it out with Intel until switching over to their own in house ARM designs.brucethemoose - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
On top of the switching cost, they'd have to jump through some hoops to get Thunderbolt ports in a Renoir design.The real crime is skipping out on Ryzen in the Mac Pro. Those crusty Xeons are way less competitive than Ice Lake.
Deicidium369 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Jump Through Hoops - you mean buy from Intel? Yeah that's some next level hoop jumpingJorgp2 - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
What?4 TB 3 ports require 16 PCI-E lanes to feed, same for DP and USB. Ice Lake has them built in.
lmcd - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Apple's custom EFI likely wouldn't be ready. Apple also surely hasn't done any work with AMD-V. That's a lot of work for a product that'll be replaced with an ARM version in 2 years.Sahrin - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
A quad core with 25W TDP? Apple living in 2009.tipoo - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
wut?s.yu - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
Quad cores were 45W up until at least 2015.I second that wut.
s.yu - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
>We also see an addition of a 3.5mm headphone jack.Wow, just wow. We may actually be witnessing Apple repenting for its fascist design decisions.
repoman27 - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link
MacBooks, MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, Macs in general **have never not had a headphone jack**. But it’s cool to hate, I guess. Yay, brand bigotry!s.yu - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Yeah I never paid attention to Macs because they seem the most replaceable among Apple devices(the least being iPP), so in light of your comment "**an addition** of a 3.5mm headphone jack" is a highly misleading way to phrase this, the correct way would be "the continued inclusion of a 3.5mm headphone jack".However this just leaves more to hate about Apple because on the contrary it does not show that they repent.
WPX00 - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
I heard the part is a Core i5-1038NG7 and i7-1068NG7, the first is a custom for Apple, the second is a slight modification of the standard 1068G7 that no one has used thus far.Peskarik - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Maybe there is a reason Apple wants to switch to its own processor in the future. Then they can dictate upgrade speed themselves and not let Intel run the show.Samus - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Yay they brought back the Escape key!Now maybe they'll bring back the headphone jack!
KPOM - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Macs still have the headphone port.s.yu - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Time to bring it back to iPads then.scineram - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Not Renoir, not interesting.manicmatviyko - Wednesday, September 2, 2020 - link
Buhb-aye Intel! Hay-der ARM!Desiray - Friday, October 2, 2020 - link
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