The decision to go no IGP goes beyond wanting to sell EVGA video cards (although that's of course part of it.). This way EVGA can run an 8phase power controller in 6+2 mode (6 for core and 2 for mem). If they added the display ports, cost increase wouldn't just be the cost of the port hardware but also of either an additional voltage controller for the IGP, or a VRM heatsink if they instead choose to run 4+2+2.
Even without IGP support there still needs to be a separate power plane for the other "uncore" bits of the CPU like the memory controller, PCIe controller, etc. So this looks like a 5+1 phase with a 2 phase memory VRM. A 5 phase vcore is still pretty good for a budget board. The 2 phase memory VRM it complete silliness though. This board does not support memory which would even come close to needing more than one phase.
the r5 2600x is better than that cpu in every scenario. and could even be overclocked, for 20 dollars less? kinda crazy recommendation. not an amd fanboy just stating facts of the lower end.
I just build an i7-8600 (non-K) for a video processing DVR using a B360 board, the Asus Gaming whatever. It has wifi and video ports that will never be used, but it is a budget board with a high-end CPU where I needed 6c/12t.
Even the guy at Microcenter was like "why not go AMD if you need threads" and the answer was simple: Quicksync. Intel destroys AMD at video encoding because of Quicksync.
This board, presumably, still supports the Quicksync architecture even though it lacks video-out. Since the DVR is setup in a rack without a keyboard or monitor, the missing video output is moot because its all remotely managed anyway, just booting a VMWare USB flash drive to load VM images from the SSD and using 2x8TB hard drives for storage.
All that said, I suspect a lot of people will use this board with the i3-8100 which is a potent gaming CPU for $100. For my application, the 8600 and 8600k were virtually identical in performance because the boost bins are mostly the same when all cores are utilized. It's really just a matter of not using the garbage cooler Intel supplied. Since I put it all in a 2U case, I was able to use a really nice HSF that prevents throttling.
The 8086K on the other hand would have had a noticeable increase in performance, stock for stock, compared to the other i7 8th gen parts.
I'm not sure it works that way. The video codec is AFAIK part of the graphics hardware, moreso than the CPU side, albeit that it's a bit of an separate block, perhaps even physically.
Also, if the BIOS or chipset doesn't enable the CPU's GPU - and it might not, in case it mislead the computer into using it - how is it going to know it needs drivers, or attach them to anything? This is similar to what happened to the Hades Canyon NUC - it wasn't using the CPU's GPU: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-had...
This is basically a server motherboard in this regard, and they tend to have separate low-power display hardware as part of the BMC rather than using the CPU (which is often expected not to have one at all). This also increases the CPU side's ability to run at full throttle.
Maybe they have been able to find a compatible way to work this, but I'd want to see it tested first.
Major miss there for EVGA. It just means that a potentially interested consumer will have to purchase a NVIDIA 1030 or something along those lines to get an image on a screen at extra cost, leaving the iGPU transistors as cold and dead in the CPU socket when they could be busy pushing pixels instead. If you're going to put together a decent budget board, which this otherwise looks like it is, at least have the decency to include a VGA, DVI, or HDMI port. (Don't care about DP since they're so uncommon.)
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The Chill Blueberry - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
Does are some scary caps for the sound processing!thekaidis - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
The decision to go no IGP goes beyond wanting to sell EVGA video cards (although that's of course part of it.). This way EVGA can run an 8phase power controller in 6+2 mode (6 for core and 2 for mem). If they added the display ports, cost increase wouldn't just be the cost of the port hardware but also of either an additional voltage controller for the IGP, or a VRM heatsink if they instead choose to run 4+2+2.magila - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
Even without IGP support there still needs to be a separate power plane for the other "uncore" bits of the CPU like the memory controller, PCIe controller, etc. So this looks like a 5+1 phase with a 2 phase memory VRM. A 5 phase vcore is still pretty good for a budget board. The 2 phase memory VRM it complete silliness though. This board does not support memory which would even come close to needing more than one phase.austinsguitar - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
are there really that many people buying budget intel systems? like non of their locked cpus are worth it at all compared to the competition?Death666Angel - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
If you don't want to overclock, both still offer good solutions. The i5 8400 is the prefered gaming CPU for many recommendation lists.austinsguitar - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
the r5 2600x is better than that cpu in every scenario. and could even be overclocked, for 20 dollars less? kinda crazy recommendation. not an amd fanboy just stating facts of the lower end.Samus - Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - link
I just build an i7-8600 (non-K) for a video processing DVR using a B360 board, the Asus Gaming whatever. It has wifi and video ports that will never be used, but it is a budget board with a high-end CPU where I needed 6c/12t.Even the guy at Microcenter was like "why not go AMD if you need threads" and the answer was simple: Quicksync. Intel destroys AMD at video encoding because of Quicksync.
This board, presumably, still supports the Quicksync architecture even though it lacks video-out. Since the DVR is setup in a rack without a keyboard or monitor, the missing video output is moot because its all remotely managed anyway, just booting a VMWare USB flash drive to load VM images from the SSD and using 2x8TB hard drives for storage.
All that said, I suspect a lot of people will use this board with the i3-8100 which is a potent gaming CPU for $100. For my application, the 8600 and 8600k were virtually identical in performance because the boost bins are mostly the same when all cores are utilized. It's really just a matter of not using the garbage cooler Intel supplied. Since I put it all in a 2U case, I was able to use a really nice HSF that prevents throttling.
The 8086K on the other hand would have had a noticeable increase in performance, stock for stock, compared to the other i7 8th gen parts.
TheManInBlack - Thursday, October 4, 2018 - link
Of course you do mean an I'5' 8600! Don't you? :)GreenReaper - Sunday, October 7, 2018 - link
I'm not sure it works that way. The video codec is AFAIK part of the graphics hardware, moreso than the CPU side, albeit that it's a bit of an separate block, perhaps even physically.Also, if the BIOS or chipset doesn't enable the CPU's GPU - and it might not, in case it mislead the computer into using it - how is it going to know it needs drivers, or attach them to anything? This is similar to what happened to the Hades Canyon NUC - it wasn't using the CPU's GPU:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-had...
This is basically a server motherboard in this regard, and they tend to have separate low-power display hardware as part of the BMC rather than using the CPU (which is often expected not to have one at all). This also increases the CPU side's ability to run at full throttle.
Maybe they have been able to find a compatible way to work this, but I'd want to see it tested first.
PeachNCream - Thursday, October 4, 2018 - link
"...it does have any display ports..."Major miss there for EVGA. It just means that a potentially interested consumer will have to purchase a NVIDIA 1030 or something along those lines to get an image on a screen at extra cost, leaving the iGPU transistors as cold and dead in the CPU socket when they could be busy pushing pixels instead. If you're going to put together a decent budget board, which this otherwise looks like it is, at least have the decency to include a VGA, DVI, or HDMI port. (Don't care about DP since they're so uncommon.)