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  • drw28 - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    can you review the gigabyte UD pro drives?the combination of phison s10 and toshiba's bics nand would be interesting to see.
  • peevee - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    There used to be you could get a decent ATX MB for the latest mainstream CPU for around $50. What happened? Is it Intel overpricing their chipsets?
  • imaheadcase - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    In what world did you visit to get that cheap..i think you are mistaken.
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    In aggressive sales perhaps. Otherwise, while I recall seeing an occasional $50 board; the reviews always indicated that there was something wrong with them. Either from a company known to only build garbage (eg PC Chips, ECS before they figured out how to make good products, or a few other companies who're dead and forgotten) or an occasional screwed up board from a mainstream brand. I remember getting an ASUS S939 board for maybe $60 years ago, when it crapped out and I looked at reviews I turned out that I wasn't alone, something like 50% 1/2 stars from people whose boards had died on them.
  • The True Morbus - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    I think there used to a PERCEPTION that you could get a decent board for 50 bucks, but that's probably because most 150$ boards looked similar to most 50$ boards.
    You can still buy the 50$ boards if you want. They'll be the first thing to give out in the build, you can write that down. And no, it doesn't matter if they're from a famous brand, they'll likely give out even quicker if that's the case.
  • PeachNCream - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    The last $50 motherboard I purchased was a Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-HD2 which was a FM2 socket mATX board. The SATA connectors all failed at the same time about three months after I bought it. There was a DVD drive on one and a 1TB WD hard drive on another when it gave up and stopped detecting devices. I tried a few other drives, shuffled ports around, got new cables, etc and the hard drive worked in an external case just fine (still is working in fact). It wasn't worth the trouble to go through customer support for RMA, but it was a bit annoying. That was the last time I wasted effort on a desktop of any sort and PC games for the most part as well. Glad to be done with that particular disaster after multiple decades of chasing system requirements. Cell phone gaming FTW!
  • peevee - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    My last personal builds were in 2000 (on ASUS) and 2011 (ASRock). Never failed. Maybe they were 50-something.
  • peevee - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    The latter is the Z68 board I still use. With then brand-new top-of-the-consumer-line i7-2600k.
    Still OCZ Vertex 3 256GB bought for $500 then, still works (although until they have fixed its firmware about a year later it had troubles). Now THAT one still alive is a surprise.
  • Galcobar - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    Some copy editing might be in order. Aside from the raft of grammatical errors (e.g. worth vs worthy of), random commas and typos (e.g. B350, i7-8400), specifications are contradictory.

    For example, page 1: "... a total [of] four USB 2.0 ports, three USB 3.0 ports (one Type-C), and one USB 3.1 (10 Gbps) port (red Type-A)."

    Page 2: "USB 2.0 (4x ports), USB 3.0 (3x ports) and a USB 3.1 Type-C port"

    Also, when did Anandtech switch (back) to referring to USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2 as, respectively, USB 3.0 and 3.1? Five days ago it was the former.
  • Joe Shields - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    The typo mentioned RE: USB was corrected. Thank you for catching that.

    As far as the 'switch'.... I know in my reviews, at least the past dozen or two, I have been referring to it in this manner consistently AFAIK. Prior to that I would use something like "USB 3.1 (speed here)" to clarify.
  • Galcobar - Friday, July 13, 2018 - link

    It would be good if the site could make a decision on whether to follow the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) conventions, or not. The reader shouldn't be left guessing based on the author. There's a reason every newspaper has a style guide: consistency.
  • timecop1818 - Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - link

    At least this board comes with Intel lan. When z370 first came out i was looking at gigabyte and every board had killer and or rgb cancer, so goodbye gigabyte, you've lost a customer.
  • The_Assimilator - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    WTF is "burification", apart from a complete failure to have a barely competent editor?
  • nwrigley - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    Genuine question here:

    Why would anyone choose this board when the GIGABYTE H370 is only $10 more?
  • rocky12345 - Thursday, July 12, 2018 - link

    Looks like a fairly good board for the price. To bad Intel likes to lock everything down on anything not the top chip set or K SKU CPU's. This board and CPU were not performing worse than the other boards with 8700K's and z370 chip set because of no MCE support it got worse scores because you can not push your memory to it's rated speed EG: 3200MHz will only run at 2667MHz on the lower tier chip sets. It really shows the worse performance you get in games because Intel refuses to remove the memory speed locks on the lower tier chip sets.

    A lot of sites refer to it as over clocking your memory when you run it at it's rated speed. So if you buy 3200MHz and run it at that but because Intel or AMD support a slower speed in their PR crap you are over clocking it. My own thoughts are I buy 3200Mhz memory I run it at that if it says 3200Mhz on the package then I am running it at it's rated speed. Now if I run it at 3400Mhz then yes I am over clocking it. I get that if Intel or AMD rate a supported speed on their CPU's and have tested them at that speed and have not tested beyond that. We all know more so for Intel that whatever they rate for the speed you will go much higher same for AMD to a lesser extent.

    Point is Intel needs to stop the crap and at least unlock things so we can run our memory we bought and paid for to be able to run it at the rated speeds that are on the package. Tghis is why the 8700K sucked a bit more on this chip set and performed much better on the better chip set. Wake up Intel and get your crap together or AMD may just roll over you on the next Ryzen release. Which would be a real shame considering I am a dude that likes my shiny new Intel CPU's but at the same time I do not like being forced into buying the extreme best of the best so I can play around with my system a bit. I built a new system for a customer a couple weeks ago and let me tell you it was pretty boring going into the UEFI and seeing all the things you can not change because of a non K CPU and the memory would not budge 1MHz over 2667MHz but hey you sure could down clock it. Greedy Greedy Greedy maybe with the CEO gone the next one will fix this type of thing and Intel can go back to being the great company they used to be.
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