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  • goatfajitas - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    Not that there is a huge jump from one gen to the next, but isn't it a bit late to be releasing a product that doesn't support the latest 8xxx CPU's?
  • Dahak - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    While yes its a bit late to release only support for the 7xxx and older. Depending on when the initial design for this was started it may have been to early for the 8xxx series.
    And instead of waiting for X months for redesigning the motherboard around the 8xxx series and scrap all the time and effort already put into it might as well release it
  • bill.rookard - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    Considering that it's a custom motherboard, I would think that with the recent revelation that Coffee Lake IS compatible with 200/100 series motherboards after all - enabling Coffee Lake would be a matter of a BIOS update. And since it's their custom motherboard, I'm sure Shuttle could put out a BIOS update pretty quickly
  • Dahak - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    I thought the pin layout is different that (due to more cores so more io/vcc pins) is part of the reason why they can't just work in current 200 series boards.
  • Dahak - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    Crap... Really need and Edit button... To continue my thought..
    And due to the pin layout / new chipset needed, it would take some more time to redesign the board. even if its a custom board to shuttle, which may take longer than just validating a current off the shelf board
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    "with the recent revelation that Coffee Lake IS compatible with 200/100 series motherboards"

    I mean, I've honestly never been surprised that Intel had been forcing consumers to change chipsets and have been adding or removing a pin from the socket for a few years LGA1156, LGA1150, LGA1151, etc.

    They want people buying a brand new motherboard to go along with a brand new CPU, etc.

    But the fact of the matter is that even though a BIOS update could "potentially" unlock that compatibility, Intel wouldn't allow it. And if you stuck your neck out to do it anyways, that AIB shouldn't be surprised when they lose their Intel partnership, so nobody publishes any BIOS update which would favor the customer since they know they need to make money in their business, too.
  • PeachNCream - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    Your screen name makes me smile so I wanted to let you know I love it!

    And yes, releasing a new product on the 7xxx CPUs doesn't make a lot of sales department sense, but don't they have to do some custom design work to get the layout done correctly and wouldn't that kinda delay releasing something like this to market?
  • Guspaz - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    Apart from a different front panel and a tweaked drive bay, this thing is virtually identical to my Shuttle XPC SZ77R5, which came out 5 years ago. Even the motherboard layout looks identical, like they just took the same design and swapped out the chipset and socket.

    This thing still has a cutout on the rear panel for a serial port. Isn't it time to update your chassis design, Shuttle?
  • harshw - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    The basic Shuttle layout hasn't changed since donkeys years. I used to own quite a few of them - SB51, SB62, SZ series - the ICE cooling has had only minor changes.

    It's sad because Shuttle at one point in time was really an SFF pioneer, right now Intel and Corsair are WAY more innovative with their NUCs and Corsair ONEs.

    The only addition I see to the years old layout is an additional cooling fan and some unnecessary RGB lights in the front :-(
  • SomeGameDeveloperDude - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    As an aficionado of small/tiny and quiet PCs, I've had a few Shuttle SFF boxes over the years, including 2 in current service (a G45 which runs XP for reference, and a Z170 box on my desk).

    Looking at their web site, though it is not obvious at first glance, this R9 chassis is bigger (longer) than the SFF form factor they have been using for years and years. The regular SFF can only fit shorter video cards - I have a short GTX 1060 in the Z170 SFF box right now and it was a bloody tight fit. Not bad, but it's not clear win over some of the other new designs targeted at games like Zotac's MEKI.
  • SomeGameDeveloperDude - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - link

    I'll correct myself before everyone else does. reading the specs, The R9 is the same chassis as prior models, but it doesn't look like they are counting the larger plastic front cap that attaches to the chassis. The video card is limited to a max size of 280x120x40mm - so there are a number of cards that won't fit.

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