I'm asking because it doesn't look like any of the two is available which would make your argument about which CPU is their HEDT flagship just a tad hypothetical.
Of course it's hypothetical, we don't know the launch dates of BR or Zen, nor do we have a complete list of SKUs or prices. I believe the best BR chip revealed so far is the 4.2GHz A12-9800 w/12 GPU cores. It likely won't compete with Intel's best SKUs, but it should be faster than the rest of AMD's stable when it arrives, making it the closest thing to HEDT AMD will have until Zen. Let me ask you this - is there a specific compute metric a CPU needs in order to be considered "HEDT" or does it simply come down to being ridiculously expensive?
No, what I meant is it's a bit pointless to call one CPU "the HEDT CPU" just because its hypothetical launch date is 2 months ahead of another more powerful CPU's hypothetical launch date. Meaning BR will probably hit the market before Zen but everybody will hold their breath until Zen is out because that actually promises some improvements.
So imagine this: if the next generation of Intel CPUs launches with the i5 with i7s coming soon after you'd still consider the i7 as HEDT, right?
It doesn't mean anything, all that's mentioned is '6-8 core fx cpus', although if they aim to ship zen this year and just in time for black friday, that would be just about the right time and just about time.
That would indicate bad engine design - no or poor asynchronicity. The game appears to be taxing on the cpu, but not all things have to happen at graphics FPS rate. If so, it would unnecessarily hurt graphics performance for things which generally don't need to be that fine-grained. A synchronous design would hurt graphics FPS even if the GPU itself can handle it.
My Russian is rusty, but there don't seem to be any gpu usage figures, which would validate my suspicion. If the cpu is a bottleneck the gpu would be idling waiting on the cpu to finish.
Except as of right now it doesn't HAVE DX12. When they release the update that adds a DX12 renderpath, then we'll see some comparisons between the DX11 and 12 code for this title.
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nathanddrews - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
Does this mean that HEDT Bristol Ridge and AM4 are arriving November 15?TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
Bristol ridge is their APU line, not their HDET line. Zen is HDET.nathanddrews - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
AMD's HEDT is whatever their fastest/best chip is. Until Zen is released, BR is it.close - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
What are the BR desktop model numbers?close - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
I'm asking because it doesn't look like any of the two is available which would make your argument about which CPU is their HEDT flagship just a tad hypothetical.nathanddrews - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
Of course it's hypothetical, we don't know the launch dates of BR or Zen, nor do we have a complete list of SKUs or prices. I believe the best BR chip revealed so far is the 4.2GHz A12-9800 w/12 GPU cores. It likely won't compete with Intel's best SKUs, but it should be faster than the rest of AMD's stable when it arrives, making it the closest thing to HEDT AMD will have until Zen. Let me ask you this - is there a specific compute metric a CPU needs in order to be considered "HEDT" or does it simply come down to being ridiculously expensive?close - Friday, August 26, 2016 - link
No, what I meant is it's a bit pointless to call one CPU "the HEDT CPU" just because its hypothetical launch date is 2 months ahead of another more powerful CPU's hypothetical launch date. Meaning BR will probably hit the market before Zen but everybody will hold their breath until Zen is out because that actually promises some improvements.So imagine this: if the next generation of Intel CPUs launches with the i5 with i7s coming soon after you'd still consider the i7 as HEDT, right?
Oxford Guy - Saturday, August 27, 2016 - link
Bristol may be slower than highly clocked Piledriver.ddriver - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
It doesn't mean anything, all that's mentioned is '6-8 core fx cpus', although if they aim to ship zen this year and just in time for black friday, that would be just about the right time and just about time.silverblue - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
It's rather unlikely that AMD would release Zen that close to Christmas. I'm going for January.ddriver - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
They say "some availability in late q4 2016". January would be missing their own deadline. The middle of november sounds just about as expected.mr_tawan - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
I'd bet on the new year's eve :)testbug00 - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
Not in any real volume. I expect late november at best, AMD will paper launch 1 or 2 Zen SKUs.BlueBlazer - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
This game still runs weak with AMD FX CPUs http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/deus-ex-mank... despite having DirectX12.ddriver - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
That would indicate bad engine design - no or poor asynchronicity. The game appears to be taxing on the cpu, but not all things have to happen at graphics FPS rate. If so, it would unnecessarily hurt graphics performance for things which generally don't need to be that fine-grained. A synchronous design would hurt graphics FPS even if the GPU itself can handle it.ddriver - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
My Russian is rusty, but there don't seem to be any gpu usage figures, which would validate my suspicion. If the cpu is a bottleneck the gpu would be idling waiting on the cpu to finish.xdesire - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - link
dx12 is not activated yet afaikHaawser - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
Correct. DX12 will be introduced next month via a patch. Afaia all the benches so far have been using DX11.Alexvrb - Friday, August 26, 2016 - link
Except as of right now it doesn't HAVE DX12. When they release the update that adds a DX12 renderpath, then we'll see some comparisons between the DX11 and 12 code for this title.