I've just activated a bunch of computers on Windows 10 Pro in a small office of Win7 Pro machines I provide support for. I did it by dropping Windows 10 onto an SSD that I had lying around (took about 20 min each) using the Windows 7 keys. After getting them all activated I reconnected their actual HDDs and made sure group policy was was set to not provide offers to upgrade the OS.
Convoluted, but at least it makes sure they don't accidentally upgrade to Windows 10, while giving me the option of doing so when the vendors they work with have solutions that will work with Windows 10 seamlessly (and they are likely to come out with an easier to use app at some point that could be useful for some of the computers that don't need the full feature set).
After december 2014 you need to install 0 update on win7 so disabling the update options is the best thing to do and be pretty clear with the people who work on it.
While I chuckled at your username, I need to point out that disabling windows update is still a terrible idea. What do you mean "no updates are needed after December 2014"? Are you saying that no critical security patches have been released since then? Because if so, that is complete and utter bullshit.
I think they should fix it before they update it (start, search, file extensions). I had barely any problems with Win7 and I've been fighting with 10 since it came out. I gave it nearly a year, but re-installing Windows every month, month and a half, is just too much.
Yeah too many problems for me at work to use Windows 10 as my daily driver. Just little frustrating things, like slow start menu or search completely failing. Things like the black icon backgrounds in a lot of the MMC consoles don't instill a lot of confidence either. I'm not looking for an OS with shiney veneer. The polish needs to go beyond skin deep.
Here Here. Went back to Win7 as got sick of too many bugs and numerous Win10 restores. The worst bug (still not fixed) relates to a widely reported BSOD on a Asus PCI-e WiFi card that just appears randomly whenever.
Will try new Win10 in virtual mode on my Win7 rig and see how it goes?
I know it's mainly a developer thing, but the new UNIX shell is really the biggest change. It's the main reason I'll upgrade, and will eventually usher in a new era as Cygwin and MinGW installations everywhere are phased out.
They said it`s in the works, but probably not in the anniversary thing, since it would then figure in the beta builds for quite some time now, which it doesn`t.
Why should they be desperate with how 10 adoption is happening? Considering the market itself is shrinking, they must be pretty damn content with the trajectory, already having 400 millions or what it got to so far.
Exactly. Windows 10 is already past 20% global adoption rate, with more users than Windows 8/8.1 and OSX combined. When the large enterprises starts their migrations, probably later this year or early next year, Windows 10 will quickly become the most used operating system version.
How about the Enterprise feature: Don't reboot whenever you feel like, give or take a few days? I'd love to see how Microsoft will convince my company to use an operating system which makes week-long processing tasks unreliable.
It's still Windows 10 though, so I won't be installing it.
We're actually at a really weird place in the computer OS space. Like, no one wants Windows 10, people who got stuck with it are pissed, games don't run in it, printers don't work with it, hell, GPU's crash in it. (display drivers technically). It's just complete and utter shit and dangling DX12 isn't gonna cut it.
I'm honestly blown away that no company with the resources to do so has decided to create and release their own full power OS. I mean, seriously, does no one else see the potential here? The ENTIRE MARKET wants another option yet no viable alternatives exist.
Can't Google just assign the man hours to the Linux Kernal and get us something supported by Brother printers and gaming Headsets and video games?
I feel totally trapped. It's terrifying. In 5 years I'll still be stuck on Windows 7 and nothing will support Windows 7. What am I gonna do? Future laptops won't have drivers for Windows 7 and I won't be able to use a computer at all.
Er, no.... people were installing pre-release versions of Windows 7 onto their computers. The spamming from MS is deception, and troubling. The AD-based OS is a waste of resources. The fact that its FREE for a year, and yet didn't meet their goals is a sign that MS is desperate.
Let's see, MS planned to have 1B W10 lic. installed in a year. Then they reduced that number twice more. So about 250~300m Win10 users out there. If W10 was not free, I bet they'd have half of what they have today, if they were lucky.
I have Win7 on my computers. I did NOT downgrade to W10 on either of them. It wasn't worth saving me $450 (3 Win7Pro) to install a crappy OS that I doesn't do anything.
Worse again, is that MS has infected its updater to spam W10 and make Win7 computers run slower. They keep re-issuing updates that have been checked "DON'T INSTALL", they keep coming up with NEW updates, which bug you about Windows10.
This is evil tactics... used by scam artists. Now they have a FULL SCREEN "GET WINDOWS 10!" in case we somehow missed it for the past year. So either we have to keep up which updates are infected or shut down Windows updates all together.
When people are AVOIDING a free $150 OS upgrade - that is a major sign problems.
Hopefully the best thing when the FREE upgrade is over, MS will stop sending out infected updates and send out NORMAL updates. But somehow, I doubt it. they'll likely send out crappy updates to make the computers run worse and worse and blame it on an "old OS".
I'm already going to Linux. My #4 computer is LinuxMint, its easier to use than Windows 10 and looks great, fast. Eventually it'll be on my main PC.
Wow, you're really filling comment sections with nonsense and other made up stuff. To the extent it would be pointless starting a grownup discussion with you. :D Is that you, Linus Torvald, or are you just a desperate shill trying to save the last scraps of Linux on desktops?
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plopke - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Last sentence "Microsoft has also announced that the free upgrade offer "<MISSING>?Brett Howse - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Copy/Paste fail! Thanks it's fixed now. - BrettJocPro - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Will the ubuntu integration come with this upgrade?Brett Howse - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Yes the Bash shell will be here as well as a developer featureStochastic - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Just wanted to chime in and say that there are some more subtle improvements coming to edge, too. See these two blog posts:https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/06/20/edg...
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/06/22/jav...
Stochastic - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
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Nice articles, thanks for sharing.Paul Tarnowski - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
I've just activated a bunch of computers on Windows 10 Pro in a small office of Win7 Pro machines I provide support for. I did it by dropping Windows 10 onto an SSD that I had lying around (took about 20 min each) using the Windows 7 keys. After getting them all activated I reconnected their actual HDDs and made sure group policy was was set to not provide offers to upgrade the OS.Convoluted, but at least it makes sure they don't accidentally upgrade to Windows 10, while giving me the option of doing so when the vendors they work with have solutions that will work with Windows 10 seamlessly (and they are likely to come out with an easier to use app at some point that could be useful for some of the computers that don't need the full feature set).
Lolimaster - Saturday, July 2, 2016 - link
What a dmg you have done.After december 2014 you need to install 0 update on win7 so disabling the update options is the best thing to do and be pretty clear with the people who work on it.
cruzinforit - Saturday, July 2, 2016 - link
While I chuckled at your username, I need to point out that disabling windows update is still a terrible idea. What do you mean "no updates are needed after December 2014"? Are you saying that no critical security patches have been released since then? Because if so, that is complete and utter bullshit.theduckofdeath - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Yeah, that is probably the most incompetent advice I've read in a comment section ever. Completely incompetent or simply malicious...cm2187 - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Candy crush soda with a revenge. Even if you uninstalled it!prime2515103 - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
I think they should fix it before they update it (start, search, file extensions). I had barely any problems with Win7 and I've been fighting with 10 since it came out. I gave it nearly a year, but re-installing Windows every month, month and a half, is just too much.Wardrop - Thursday, June 30, 2016 - link
Yeah too many problems for me at work to use Windows 10 as my daily driver. Just little frustrating things, like slow start menu or search completely failing. Things like the black icon backgrounds in a lot of the MMC consoles don't instill a lot of confidence either. I'm not looking for an OS with shiney veneer. The polish needs to go beyond skin deep.Meteor2 - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
I think your must have a hardware fault.Agent Smith - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
Here Here.Went back to Win7 as got sick of too many bugs and numerous Win10 restores. The worst bug (still not fixed) relates to a widely reported BSOD on a Asus PCI-e WiFi card that just appears randomly whenever.
Will try new Win10 in virtual mode on my Win7 rig and see how it goes?
A5 - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
That sounds like ASUS needs to fix their driver?ABR - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
I know it's mainly a developer thing, but the new UNIX shell is really the biggest change. It's the main reason I'll upgrade, and will eventually usher in a new era as Cygwin and MinGW installations everywhere are phased out.BrokenCrayons - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
Ugh, more Cortana. I don't have any interest in talking to my computer.haukionkannel - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
https://youtu.be/hShY6xZWVGEjabber - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
I'll look forward to it undoing all the changes I've made to 10 already.bill44 - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
Any update regarding color management upgrade?Michael Bay - Sunday, July 3, 2016 - link
They said it`s in the works, but probably not in the anniversary thing, since it would then figure in the beta builds for quite some time now, which it doesn`t.Pinewood - Friday, July 1, 2016 - link
What about scaling (icons), high-resolution screens UHD?blzd - Saturday, July 2, 2016 - link
Anyone want to take bets the free upgrade will continue or return soon after? Microsoft is much too desperate to give that up.I'll be sticking with Win 7 x64, DX12 be damned.
Michael Bay - Sunday, July 3, 2016 - link
Why should they be desperate with how 10 adoption is happening? Considering the market itself is shrinking, they must be pretty damn content with the trajectory, already having 400 millions or what it got to so far.theduckofdeath - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Exactly. Windows 10 is already past 20% global adoption rate, with more users than Windows 8/8.1 and OSX combined. When the large enterprises starts their migrations, probably later this year or early next year, Windows 10 will quickly become the most used operating system version.Sivar - Monday, July 4, 2016 - link
How about the Enterprise feature: Don't reboot whenever you feel like, give or take a few days?I'd love to see how Microsoft will convince my company to use an operating system which makes week-long processing tasks unreliable.
theduckofdeath - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
An idea would be to use a server operating system for server processes?Hrel - Tuesday, July 5, 2016 - link
It's still Windows 10 though, so I won't be installing it.We're actually at a really weird place in the computer OS space. Like, no one wants Windows 10, people who got stuck with it are pissed, games don't run in it, printers don't work with it, hell, GPU's crash in it. (display drivers technically). It's just complete and utter shit and dangling DX12 isn't gonna cut it.
I'm honestly blown away that no company with the resources to do so has decided to create and release their own full power OS. I mean, seriously, does no one else see the potential here? The ENTIRE MARKET wants another option yet no viable alternatives exist.
Can't Google just assign the man hours to the Linux Kernal and get us something supported by Brother printers and gaming Headsets and video games?
I feel totally trapped. It's terrifying. In 5 years I'll still be stuck on Windows 7 and nothing will support Windows 7. What am I gonna do? Future laptops won't have drivers for Windows 7 and I won't be able to use a computer at all.
This is just insane to me.
Michael Bay - Wednesday, July 6, 2016 - link
"no one wants Windows 10, blahblahblah"Familiar mantra, your sad kind wailed exactly the same when 7 shipped. Guess what, nothing crashes and everything works somehow.
LazloPanaflex - Wednesday, July 6, 2016 - link
Hey, Michael Bay, guess what, he's right...nobody wants 10. Oh, BTW, go fuck yourself, you Microsoft shill.Michael Bay - Thursday, July 7, 2016 - link
Oh, another sad loonie.Belard - Friday, July 8, 2016 - link
Er, no.... people were installing pre-release versions of Windows 7 onto their computers.The spamming from MS is deception, and troubling. The AD-based OS is a waste of resources.
The fact that its FREE for a year, and yet didn't meet their goals is a sign that MS is desperate.
Let's see, MS planned to have 1B W10 lic. installed in a year. Then they reduced that number twice more. So about 250~300m Win10 users out there. If W10 was not free, I bet they'd have half of what they have today, if they were lucky.
I have Win7 on my computers. I did NOT downgrade to W10 on either of them. It wasn't worth saving me $450 (3 Win7Pro) to install a crappy OS that I doesn't do anything.
Worse again, is that MS has infected its updater to spam W10 and make Win7 computers run slower. They keep re-issuing updates that have been checked "DON'T INSTALL", they keep coming up with NEW updates, which bug you about Windows10.
This is evil tactics... used by scam artists. Now they have a FULL SCREEN "GET WINDOWS 10!" in case we somehow missed it for the past year. So either we have to keep up which updates are infected or shut down Windows updates all together.
When people are AVOIDING a free $150 OS upgrade - that is a major sign problems.
Hopefully the best thing when the FREE upgrade is over, MS will stop sending out infected updates and send out NORMAL updates. But somehow, I doubt it. they'll likely send out crappy updates to make the computers run worse and worse and blame it on an "old OS".
I'm already going to Linux. My #4 computer is LinuxMint, its easier to use than Windows 10 and looks great, fast. Eventually it'll be on my main PC.
theduckofdeath - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Wow, you're really filling comment sections with nonsense and other made up stuff. To the extent it would be pointless starting a grownup discussion with you. :DIs that you, Linus Torvald, or are you just a desperate shill trying to save the last scraps of Linux on desktops?