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  • jimjamjamie - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Does it have a valve so that you can deflate it?
  • DanNeely - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    It's a feature. It's screwed up lines mean that even a reviewer who doesn't know how to take good product photos will have all of their flaws hidden by the WTFs in the case design itself.
  • damianrobertjones - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    +1
    The photos, for this article, are terrible.
  • HideOut - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    But the case looks like a mini pregnant guppy.
  • ddriver - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    It looks like it was already used, and the system in it suffered a terrible meltdown.
  • fanofanand - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I thought they were fine. This is a tech site not a photography site.
  • BrokenCrayons - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Photos were adequate for getting the point across. I'd prefer the reviewers put more of their limited time into reviewing a product and writing about it as opposed to setting up glam shots for hardware.
  • Murloc - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    yeah companies create enough of those.

    Plus I want to see how the case looks in real life as well, so pics have to be unrefined.
  • deanx0r - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Except that aesthetics are an essential part of a case. Most people wouldn't even bother with review of cases they find ugly or uninteresting. It isn't hard to take decent photos. The poor photo quality isn't balanced by the outstanding content of the review either. Their case reviews tend to be generic, borderline mediocre. If anything the poor picture quality just shows a lack of effort from the reviewers.
  • BrokenCrayons - Monday, June 20, 2016 - link

    I guess I wouldn't understand. My desktop case sits in a corner, hidden behind a shelf unit. I see it once in a while when I need to press the power button to turn it on. As long as it keeps the parts inside it in the places where I put them and provides enough airflow for cooling, I could care less what it looks like. When I'm playing games on it, I'm streaming them and sitting in different room with my laptop. So for me, the looks of my computer's case is as unimportant as the color of the plastic of my hair dryer.

    Sure, some people are a lot more superficial about what the box looks like which is why there's a market for fashionable cases that have the right sparkles and sunshine in the right places. Those people seeking a certain style are willing to pay for it so from a company perspective, there's no reason not to release a product in order to reap in larger per-unit margins.

    However, taking pics for a review? Whatever. Throw it on your kitchen table, shoot a few photos of it. I don't even care if there's a few dishes loitering in your drying rack in the background. You guys are too picky and its a good thing that most of your spouses, girlfriends, and boyfriends aren't doing that in a more important context than a review of some silly computer case otherwise all those rashes, gaseous emissions, obesity, and body odors would doom the human race.
  • Flunk - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I like the look of this, but it's just too big for a mini-ITX case. It's bigger than NZXT's own S340 full ATX case, which is much more practical.
  • freeskier93 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I'm really baffled by this, I even pulled out the tape measure to measure my s340 and sure enough, basically the same.
  • Lugaidster - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Manufacturers don't get mITX at all. Anandtech doesn't either, apparently. Here's what enthusiasts look for in SFF cases:

    - Full-length video card compatibility with full wattage support
    - Minimal Size
    - Enough cooling for 250W GPU
    - Decent cooling (though size is more important) for a maximum of 90W TDP in the CPU
    - Low noise

    And here's why, enthusiast mITX systems are based on Intel systems for the moment, and with the exception of a very specific X99 Asrock motherboard, all systems use 65W-90W Intel CPUs. Overclocking is secondary to noise and size as long as the system is capable of cooling a powerful enough system.

    If the system uses full ATX PSUs it's already too big. Those are not needed for a SFF system even if going for an LGA2011 CPU with a Titan GPU, SFX-L serves the purpose just fine, and SFX does even, if you can bear the noise of the PSU when going full tilt.

    Please, review cases that are smaller and give ratings accordingly. This particular case is a mess aesthetically and doesn't serve the purpose of a SFF system.

    You should take a look at the Ncase m1 (oldie but goodie) or the Dan a4-sfx for inspiration on what enthusiasts look for in a SFF case.
  • Taverius - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Mmnope. I have an ax760i psu and a k-series in mine. You don't speak for all of us.
  • Lugaidster - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I'm speaking for the frustration I see in communities of SFF systems when designs like this one appears. I won't post links, but hop around SFF forums in HardForum or more dedicated communities and you'll see what I mean. There's a reason the Ncase M1 has such a huge following despite it's price-tag.

    There's clearly demand for proper SFF systems that try to push the envelope with regards to the amount of horsepower you can put in the smallest possible enclosure, but manufacturers keep pushing fat cases that don't take advantage of the minimal designs mITX allow while maintaining compatibility with high performance parts.

    I complain on this review because the case clearly isn't SFF and because the testing done doesn't reflect the type of components you'd want to put in an enthusiast case: 120W GPU with a 150W CPU is not representative, a 100W CPU (and this actually considers moderate overclock, the i7-4790K is 88W) with a 275W GPU is more like it.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I agree with the sentiment of SFF, the I believe the crux here is that this case isn't targeted for small form factor buyers, even though it's restricted to Mini-ITX.

    Bear with me. Yes it's a Mini-ITX tower, but no it's not small form factor.

    This is really intended for people that:
    1) Already know they're never going to need anything more than 1 PCI-E slot for anything.
    2) (Most important) Want to have a different case shape than a traditional "box".

    As others have noted, this is bigger than some midtower ATX cases on the market, and if a user wanted to spend a limited budget more wisely, they'd get a comparable ATX motherboard (which are typically cheaper than Mini-ITX motherboards) and get a smallish ATX midtower (which could fit even more components than a Manta can and is cheaper). So ultimately, they're really only buying the case for the unique shape.
  • Lugaidster - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Yes, the case is indeed odd, but the review treats it like a SFF case because it tests for components that supposedly would be on a SFF system, like a 120W GPU (I won't repeat myself on why I think the methodology for SFF reviews is flawed).

    If this case is indeed nothing more than a small tower, like you say, we should see it being compared against other tower systems with thermals according to that type of systems.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I do agree there.

    The cases really should be compared, not in terms of motherboard size compatibility, but in terms of case volume. I don't think a case of this kind of volume should be compared to a Node 202, for example, even though both are Mini-ITX cases. The inherent difference of volume speaks to different form factor categories, and therefore different customers.
  • BrokenCrayons - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    [H]'s forum is about the last tech forum I'd submit as a place from which to draw a credible sample. The people there are nice and some are pretty informed, but it has its own community-pervasive distortions.
  • TheinsanegamerN - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    Some of us are still waiting for the A4-SFX to come out. That thing is gonna be sweet when it finally comes out
  • Connoisseur - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Exactly what I care about for my next build, which will be a mini-itx. Was looking at ncase m1 as it's definitely the most compact and clean-looking around but a little concerned about the lack of user-friendliness. Every build video I've seen seems like an exercise in putting together a 3d jigsaw puzzle.

    Ideally I'd like all of the items you mentioned plus fairly easy user access and cable management but I know the cases start to get larger at that point.
  • Connoisseur - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Also, agree on the benchmarking. mini-ITX shouldn't be rated together since the internal volumes vary drastically. There should be a noise and temperature benchmark where they assess the temps at a given noise level (something similar to what SPCR does) accounting for a high performance vid card.
  • Samus - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    The ncase m1 is awesome. It is an oldie, just like the Silverstone FT03-mini, and it seems itx cases since have lost their sole purpose of the requirements you outlined. I think a minimalistic design with silent operation and as compact internal volume as possible are the key goals, while still fitting a 10.5" video card, even if an SFX PSU is required.
  • Major_Kusanagi - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    No offense, but don't lump every enthusiast into your viewpoint. I for one love my fairly recent Manta build (seen here: http://i.imgur.com/xJh9owx.jpg )which fits my needs perfectly.
  • kyuu - Saturday, June 18, 2016 - link

    Very nice looking build. Kudos.
  • Drumsticks - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    Personally, I've got a Corsair Obsidian 250D with a 240mm radiator running a 4.7 GHz i5-4670k. I have an ancient 7850 that is about to get replaced, but I'm pretty happy with the size, capabilities, and performance of my rig. It's not the smallest thing (the ncase m1 you mentioned is probably half the size), but it's definitely pretty easy to carry under one arm, which is really all I need from my mITX.

    While I agree that there is a need (and not an insignificant one) for the smallest case you can get, stuff the size of my case do fine, imo. Granted, the Manta in question is pretty big as far as I understand, but the thing I like about my system is I can fit essentially a full PC with no compromises (barring a single PCI-e slot inherent to ITX which is a given) and still manage a small build with good airflow.
  • kepstin - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I'll be honest, I was initially wondering why the photographer was using a fish-eye lens to take photos of this case... that's a pretty unusual and bulky look for a PC case.
  • ingwe - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I thought the same thing. Very...unique...
  • zodiacfml - Saturday, June 18, 2016 - link

    They probably have a small room to do the product photography.
  • dsraa - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    16 inches tall is as tall as ATX Mid-tower, what's the point? It's a wierd shape too.....complete fail.
  • samer1970 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    itx were made for compact System , not to put them inside the same size of full ATX case
  • bigb0096 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    This is repetitive at this point, but this is not an SFF case. Why did NZXT limit it to mini-ITX when it is the same size as my microATX Antec P180 Mini?
  • A5 - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    I also have the P180 Mini, and if I'm honest it is fairly large for a microATX case. I can't imagine the thinking behind a mITX case that's the same size.
  • Gadgety - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    MiniITX at 426 mm × 245 mm × 450 mm?? What's the point? I have an HPTX, dual CPUs, with up to 7 GPU:s in a case not much larger at 489 x 230 x 505 mm.
  • jwcalla - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Continuing the recent trend of gigantic mITX cases.
  • djayjp - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    There's something wrong with your lens....
  • djayjp - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    It looks all warped...lol
  • piasabird - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    You could just as easily buy any number of cheap MATX cases with the same amount of room. I have seen ATX cases smaller than this.
  • NBH - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    I love mini ITX but this case is just too large for the form factor.

    IMO if you go for mini ITX you are sacrificing some power due to lack of larger cooling options and expansion due to the smaller motherboard but gaining a small, quiet and fairly portable PC. This case hasn't got the small size and it hasn't got the expansion options. It seems like it's caught between a mini ITX case and an ATX case and not really working in either size.
  • piasabird - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    When I build a system I might want an ITX motherboard, but I dont ever plan on purchasing a video card. However I might also want a Hard Drive an a DVD drive. I liked some of the little STX systems I have seen reviews on but I may still want a Hard Drive at least.
  • Voldenuit - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    "With a postmodern design sporting curved panels and smooth surfaces-"
    "Wait, what makes it postmodern?"
    "Well, it's all curved edges so it's pointless. It's Pointless, CORAL!"
  • ES_Revenge - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    I was always waiting for NZXT to make cases for mATX and/or ITX. They did have the Vulcan (mATX) some years ago but that thing was one of the ugliest cases on the planet, so it didn't really count.

    NZXT has some very nice case designs (I bought an S340 and love it) so I was pretty excited to hear they might be making some new smaller-than-ATX cases. Thing about my S340 is, to me, it's HUGE! I've been making mATX or ITX machines since the PIII days so full ATX is rather large for me. Love the case but it's a *monster* compared to my other cases like Silverstone SG03 and SG06, and Bitfenix Pandora.

    So NZXT comes out with an ITX case--sounds like it should be awesome, right? Looks cool enough but thennnn... WHY ON EARTH is it as big as my S340? Are they stupid? Out of their minds? High as kites?

    Seriously this is the dumbest *mini ITX* case evar. How they could possibly fail so badly is beyond me. It's 10mm (7/16") shorter than an S340, basically the same depth, and (get this) it's actually *wider* than it!

    What is amazing is how there's really not much you can put in here that you can't put in the S340...yet that has space for a mobo with SIX more slots! What did they use the space for? Looks like just air. I'm not sure what kind of crack these guys were on when they made this, but I assure you it's the bad kind.

    Why the Manta isn't mATX is one thing to think about but when you realise it's as big as an S340, you have to wonder why it doesn't fit an ATX board.

    Sounded exciting NZXT was making cases for smaller factors, but then it turns out all they did was make a full ATX case and then make higher feet or something, make the roof higher (you know for more air and less slots?!?) and that way it only fits ITX, and then they called it a day. It almost defies the laws of geometry this thing. How the heck did they make it so the PSU sits almost directly below the second slot (obviously needed for videocards) yet there's still only two slots to the S340's *seven*? In the end it's somehow the same height?

    What a joke. Seriously NZXT? Just stick to making ATX cases if this is the tomfoolery you're going to engage in. Ugh.
  • Haravikk - Saturday, June 18, 2016 - link

    I really can't bring myself to like anything about the design; the curves serve no purpose at all, so all they do is make an already rather large (for Mini-ITX) case even larger, and for me that's not at all what Mini-ITX is about.

    By all means, try to find a way to fit a full graphics card and decent CPU cooler into a Mini-ITX chassis, but do it in the smallest space possible.

    That said, all-in-one liquid coolers are hardly expensive, and since going small generally means a price premium anyway, I'm far more interesting in small cases that don't waste space making room for big air coolers when a well positioned radiator mount will do the job. This usually makes room for a PSU "over" the motherboard which drastically reduces the case's size, so with the trade off being big air cooler vs much smaller case possibly requiring a liquid cooler, I'm very much focused on the latter.
  • Sn3akr - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    The size defies the idea of ITX builds in general, and its ugly too ;)
  • mauler1973 - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Why does the side if that thing look like a CRT monitor? I don't think I would use that thing if it cost $20. Way overpriced for a small case.
  • bkydcmpr - Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - link

    I'm wondering if all of those 1990s industrial designers ended up in the pc chassis business now, this is almost the only consumer electronic product still dominated by those pre-iphone time tawdry designs, oh and gaming laptops, probably from the same group of people.
  • andjohn2000 - Sunday, July 3, 2016 - link

    Looks ugly
  • rvk19 - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - link

    i have this case .. and my gpu card gtx 670 with arctic twin turbo ii cooler won't fit in .. so do mind the customized gpu cards won't fit in .. other than that i like the case .. i took it because of it's different shape which i haven't seen anywhere so far and i won't be using more than one gpu card .. not a fan of SFF either .. so this case unfortunately falls under SFF and looks like a tower .. gpu card won't fit in if its loaded with a custom gpu cooler .. that sucked a bit ..

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