I believe you mean the E5-4669 v3 instead of the E5-2699 v3 for the Microway system, to get to 72 cores. The E5-2xxx series is for 2 socket systems, not 4. The E5-4669 v3 gives you 18 cores at a little lower clock speed (2.1 vs 2.3 GHz for the E5-2699 v3).
Also are you sure the Microway is using E5 v3 chips? It looks like there are SMB chips near the DIMM slots on the motherboard which would point toward E7 v3 chips.
Do the words "wet dream" really belong in a professional publication? I realize it's not in print on dead tree pulp, but I do think it might be better to use less colorful terminology to express excitement over computer hardware.
Perhaps I've naive, or it's because it can be common enough vernacular here, because while I was writing this I never thought about the phrase in the context you are suggesting. But noted for the future.
@Asian7 Maybe post a NSFW (Not Safe For Work) tag on that second link next time. I know there is harder stuff out there, but that goes just far enough to get some people in trouble.
Sorry about that, yes the second link is NSFW. Though, I note, I just noted I wanted to see a website by the name of Workstation Love. I suppose I should have noted NSFW on the second link, but that's obvious if you read the comic at the first link. I'm not Asian BTW.
Every healthy geek has a hardware's wet dream, so I just cant find anything non-academic in such analogy. You guys should cure your sexual frustrations elsewhere.
Wet dream is a totally appropriate for this level of hardware awesomeness. This publication doesn't spend half as much time discussing Bulgarian Airbags as it should.
This is a problem with using clichés in general; words gradually lose their meaning and vividness.
I am not remotely offended by this figure of speech, but I would certainly not have used it myself because it comes across as lazy, careless, and immature.
This is just intended as constructive criticism, so apologies for being blunt about it.
I was happy to read the cliche, because our world seems to become increasingly hypersensitive to things not deemed "politically correct" and that scale keeps sliding further and faster than I can keep up.
Yet as we get hammered on about having to watch everything we say, we also have to accept everything we see, or see someone else do, that may have been a minority status, otherwise we are accused and ostracized for being discriminatory.
this is not about PC, but about not using expressions that pertain the sexual domain in a professional environment.
AT writing is conversational in style and the writers are tech people so it's okay, and wet dream is so overused as a word that you don't even think about its sexual meaning anymore, which is okay 99% of the time but could be a problem.
Except it is about being PC. Wet dream is common vernacular to most people in the USA. The fact that you would know what it means in order to point out that you are offended by it's use in referring to Tech, completely justifies it's use as common place. I doubt some person reading this, is going to go to their mom or dad, and ask what the term "wet dream" means because he read it on a Tech Website discussing very powerful equipment. It is a perfectly acceptable use.
Thanks Ian! I didn't intend to spark a controversy and I've always enjoyed reading AT's articles. It was simply something I tripped over while reading that I thought I'd mention with the idea of helping AT keep up with the appeal it has with business/professional readers as a source of reliable tech information.
I hate to break it to you Miami305, but "don't mention sex, it's inappropriate" is and has always been a *conservative* thing, not a liberal PC thing. Liberals are the ones who want to teach children comprehensive sex ed, remember.
Then again, this is a tech journalism site, so I shouldn't expect commenters to have a coherent understanding of anything outside of technology.
My biggest beef with workstations is the lack of innovation around storage. What I really want is one with 4 NVMe-capable M.2 slots for primary storage, and optionally a bunch of 2.5" slots for expansion SATA SSD storage. Instead we get useless 3.5" slots for spinning rust and even more useless 5.25" slots for optical drives.
Limited PCIe bandwidth I suspect is the limiting factor on most of them. You've only got 4 PCIe lanes worth of upstream bandwidth from the chipset; so if you want to be able to use multiple drives at high simultaneous loads you almost have to put them on the CPU instead where they compete with GPUs/etc for lanes. If you're making a dedicated 4way system you've got enough CPU lanes to work around it; but it becomes problematic if you're starting with a 1 or 2 socket design and then scaling it up.
On the dual socket systems most of the PCIe lanes are inaccessible anyway. 40 lanes is plenty for insanely fast storage setups.
One x16 (unecessary, x8 would work) slot for GPU Maybe x4 for the chipset and all other peripherals/storage controllers that's 20 lanes free for storage in a single GPU setup. we're talking 5 x4 NVMe drives. Space becomes an issue but that's why M.2 was suggested. I'm personally not a fan of this solution since AICs are much higher power/performance right now.
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willis936 - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Man I'm salivating.nandnandnand - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
"Obviously to get the best of everything is still a little out of the reach for PCIe NVMe SSDs as well"What's this mean? The storage capacity is not very high?
avbohemen - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
I believe you mean the E5-4669 v3 instead of the E5-2699 v3 for the Microway system, to get to 72 cores. The E5-2xxx series is for 2 socket systems, not 4. The E5-4669 v3 gives you 18 cores at a little lower clock speed (2.1 vs 2.3 GHz for the E5-2699 v3).Kevin G - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Typo:"Because these are v3 CPUs, there is scope for up to 72 cores / 144 threads using E5-2699 v3 processors..."
I think you mean E5-4669 v3 as that is the quad socket capable part. E5-2699 v3's are limited to two sockets.
Kevin G - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Also are you sure the Microway is using E5 v3 chips? It looks like there are SMB chips near the DIMM slots on the motherboard which would point toward E7 v3 chips.Ian Cutress - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
You're right - the light shining on the text above the display just about says E7 v3.Kevin G - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Now the previous sentence referring to the E5-4600 v3's is out of place.BrokenCrayons - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Do the words "wet dream" really belong in a professional publication? I realize it's not in print on dead tree pulp, but I do think it might be better to use less colorful terminology to express excitement over computer hardware.Ian Cutress - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Perhaps I've naive, or it's because it can be common enough vernacular here, because while I was writing this I never thought about the phrase in the context you are suggesting. But noted for the future.willis936 - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Well with a title like "workstation love" this article could be the start of a spin off site.Aslan7 - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
I'm eager to see such a site. https://xkcd.com/305/ and https://web.archive.org/web/20130516023737/http://... as the original site is down.BurntMyBacon - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
@Asian7Maybe post a NSFW (Not Safe For Work) tag on that second link next time. I know there is harder stuff out there, but that goes just far enough to get some people in trouble.
Aslan7 - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
Sorry about that, yes the second link is NSFW. Though, I note, I just noted I wanted to see a website by the name of Workstation Love. I suppose I should have noted NSFW on the second link, but that's obvious if you read the comic at the first link. I'm not Asian BTW.evancox10 - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Huh? What other context could it possibly have? (I agree with BrokenCrayons on this.)pedjache - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Every healthy geek has a hardware's wet dream, so I just cant find anything non-academic in such analogy. You guys should cure your sexual frustrations elsewhere.evancox10 - Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - link
My sex life is fine, thank you. Maybe you're projecting?Aslan7 - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
Wet dream is a totally appropriate for this level of hardware awesomeness. This publication doesn't spend half as much time discussing Bulgarian Airbags as it should.Aslan7 - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/03/bulgarian_...Klug4Pres - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
This is a problem with using clichés in general; words gradually lose their meaning and vividness.I am not remotely offended by this figure of speech, but I would certainly not have used it myself because it comes across as lazy, careless, and immature.
This is just intended as constructive criticism, so apologies for being blunt about it.
SilthDraeth - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
I was happy to read the cliche, because our world seems to become increasingly hypersensitive to things not deemed "politically correct" and that scale keeps sliding further and faster than I can keep up.Yet as we get hammered on about having to watch everything we say, we also have to accept everything we see, or see someone else do, that may have been a minority status, otherwise we are accused and ostracized for being discriminatory.
Murloc - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
this is not about PC, but about not using expressions that pertain the sexual domain in a professional environment.AT writing is conversational in style and the writers are tech people so it's okay, and wet dream is so overused as a word that you don't even think about its sexual meaning anymore, which is okay 99% of the time but could be a problem.
So I understand why the reader pointed it out.
SilthDraeth - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
Except it is about being PC. Wet dream is common vernacular to most people in the USA. The fact that you would know what it means in order to point out that you are offended by it's use in referring to Tech, completely justifies it's use as common place. I doubt some person reading this, is going to go to their mom or dad, and ask what the term "wet dream" means because he read it on a Tech Website discussing very powerful equipment. It is a perfectly acceptable use.pedjache - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
And any mom and dad should, hopefully, be able to explain it, without mentioning anything sexual.evancox10 - Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - link
+1, it's not about being PC or not, but moving the discourse on tech beyond jr high school yard talk. We need more professionalism, not less.BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - link
Thanks Ian! I didn't intend to spark a controversy and I've always enjoyed reading AT's articles. It was simply something I tripped over while reading that I thought I'd mention with the idea of helping AT keep up with the appeal it has with business/professional readers as a source of reliable tech information.Miami305 - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Go away PC police you sound like an old bitty.If you have a problem with what is said stop reading go somewhere else
Nobody needs to see your superfluous butthurt comment, get off the computer and go outside.
Ian write whatever you want you're the one doing the hard work, I want to read something written by a human not a robot.
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Curvature of Earth - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
I hate to break it to you Miami305, but "don't mention sex, it's inappropriate" is and has always been a *conservative* thing, not a liberal PC thing. Liberals are the ones who want to teach children comprehensive sex ed, remember.Then again, this is a tech journalism site, so I shouldn't expect commenters to have a coherent understanding of anything outside of technology.
hpglow - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Or you could try not to be a pussy.doggface - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
+1watersb - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
You say that like it's a bad thingfazalmajid - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
My biggest beef with workstations is the lack of innovation around storage. What I really want is one with 4 NVMe-capable M.2 slots for primary storage, and optionally a bunch of 2.5" slots for expansion SATA SSD storage. Instead we get useless 3.5" slots for spinning rust and even more useless 5.25" slots for optical drives.DanNeely - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
Limited PCIe bandwidth I suspect is the limiting factor on most of them. You've only got 4 PCIe lanes worth of upstream bandwidth from the chipset; so if you want to be able to use multiple drives at high simultaneous loads you almost have to put them on the CPU instead where they compete with GPUs/etc for lanes. If you're making a dedicated 4way system you've got enough CPU lanes to work around it; but it becomes problematic if you're starting with a 1 or 2 socket design and then scaling it up.willis936 - Monday, December 14, 2015 - link
On the dual socket systems most of the PCIe lanes are inaccessible anyway. 40 lanes is plenty for insanely fast storage setups.One x16 (unecessary, x8 would work) slot for GPU
Maybe x4 for the chipset and all other peripherals/storage controllers
that's 20 lanes free for storage in a single GPU setup. we're talking 5 x4 NVMe drives. Space becomes an issue but that's why M.2 was suggested. I'm personally not a fan of this solution since AICs are much higher power/performance right now.
Zak - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
WTF? I've never met a workstation user who though that a side window panel with LEDs was particularly important to his CAD or bioinformatics needs.Marrie Hill - Sunday, February 13, 2022 - link
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