Plenty of other use cases. It's a good tool if you're a guest on a computer, allowing you to temporarily login to your Google or Facebook account on without having to log anyone out. I also use it for Googling private topics, like you know, that rash between my legs. Basically anything you wouldn't want someone else to see popup in your search suggestions.
Or when browsing sites that you know will dump cookies all over your browser and adjust behavior according to your actions. Like airline tickets sites that gradually increase price if you show particular interest in a specific destination. This can be mostly avoided by using porn-mode.
Dunno about Dragon Age Inquisition, but Witcher 3 works fine... Given the stress it puts on the machine chances for everything else are decent. Otoh, it manages to put my good old GTX580 to 59°C (while Civ 5 only manages 51). No idea if it is the game or some driver issue, but better keep an eye on temperatures to stay on safe side.
My gtx 275 runs at 80°C when gaming and it's several years old now. The resistance of the GPU to high temperatures hasn't changed in the meanwhile I think, given what Syklis says (i.e. max 97°C).
8 degrees between Civilization V and Witcher 3 on same ambient temperature and long enough run (1hr) for thermal income and outcome of cooling system to stabilize is quite a bit. Ofc it is not an issue to worry about on custom cooling that is capable of managing quite a bit more heat dissipation than stock cooler. After all in my case I am still 38°C from deadline...
What I am worried about is how would the temperature increase I noticed translate with the stock cooler. Given my water loop is a little bit over 3l volume that's quite a bit more energy...
How did you get Witcher 3 to work on win 10 ? I get these 2 errors when I try to run it: http://imgur.com/a/oTmjN I got the game for free using a gog.com key that came with my 970. I tried using win 7/8 AND win 10 drivers (the latest). Still had thoses errors. halp lol
"We have fixed issues where fonts would render blurry on High DPI displays"
That's a lie. The fonts are still blurry and/or messed up on Win32 programs. For instance all the Amin Tools, CMD, Device Manager all still have issues. The old bitmap icons are also a blocky deformed mess.
The problem is the code for this stuff is ridiculously ancient. Take Device Manager, it hasn't been updated for atleast 15 years.
All of this stuff needs be completely transformed to Universal Apps. That will instantly fix all DPI issues and enable regular updates/improvements.
Ditto, the one true way to solve this is universal apps. Trying to fix Win32 apps will be fighting against a strong headwind. On a high DPi display apps like File Explorer and Task Manager just look funny.
Even though it may not be perfect, there needs to be a way to scale apps that set the High DPI aware flag but do not scale themselves. They may not look great, but they will at least be usable.
This one tidbit has me more intrigued than almost anything that has come so far.
"the one true way to solve this is universal apps"
Actually, XAML is the answer to DPI scaling, if we're to be precise. Universal apps, WinRT, and WPF all scale perfectly because they're all using XAML or a subset of XAML.
Correct, but I was speaking in terms of what Microsoft will be embracing in the future. According to build "Windows XAML" is the future of hardware accelerated, DPI aware UI they're focusing on, which isn't necessarily exclusive to universal apps.
My god that picture is so hideously ugly... The day file explorer looks like that is the day I lose all hope in Windows. The inbox Win10 apps are some of the absolutely worst designed applications I've ever used in my life, and the new design style/guidelines and visuals are a complete joke.
Mail, Calender and Xbox are great new apps. The new Calculator and Voice recorder are better, in terms of looks AND features/functionality. And Photos is atleast an improvement over Windows Photo Viewer.
Yeah, this is not fear of change, my friend. I've openly embraced most OSs and software prior to Windows 8. This is just an example of poorly design software. There are objectively bad choices in that screenshot ranging from poor contrast, bad iconography that is indistinguishable from one another, and low information density. Then there are just subjective qualities like the choices of color and that I think it's just straight ugly and unpolished. It looks like, at best, beta/prototype software.
I suppose one could argue about "how much contrast is enough," but as a graphics developer who has used many different kinds of displays across Windows 8/10, white on gray without any kind of darker edge/seam in between them for contrast is always a bad combination. You will run into a variety of device configurations that cannot display the image above very well.
Ugh, I couldn't stand all that whitespace. I don't know why everyone wants lists (like in that sidebar) that can only show ten items before it runs out of screen space. Also, they had better not do anything with a permanent tab bar constantly taking space and not allowing me to open multiple Explorer windows.
In short, simplicity and beauty have to be very carefully balanced with information density and power. Microsoft needs to focus on giving their users the most power possible, rather than the most beautiful experience.
It's not necessarily a lie. They said "issues", which is plural, but not all encompassing. They only had to fix a minimum of 2 (out of many) issues to make that a legitimate claim.
They already hinted at this, but I believe Microsoft has to be more aggressive in restricting and controlling the basic and mainstream hardware features, instead of giving OEMs and driver software free reign. My Synaptics trackpad (and its features), for example, is still controlled via Synaptics' software, and can get really finicky at times. Microsoft needs to incorporate all of the functionality in a unified API, and drivers should only serve as facilitation. This also should be the case for biometrics, cameras, scanners, printers, etc.
This will ultimately solve (or at least drastically minimize) a huge number of inconsistencies in the overall experience of Windows. It should also make it a LOT easier to write software that takes better advantage of these peripherals. I can't stress enough the importance of this issue.
ehm, no. If you have HW with buggy driver complain to HW vendor. M$ don't need and shouldn't babysit everything. They just need to provide way for HW vendor to write drivers they want to enable full potential of their device. Also there is no "experience of windows" . It greatly depends on HW of your PC. So if you want uniformity or something,go to OSX.
After what we've seen from "M$" in their keynotes, you'd think there isn't any more "potential" in input devices, biometrics and the other mainstream stuff I mentioned to "unleash". Anything else would simply be a gimmick that no one wants.
In fact, Microsoft already has a ton of high level unified APIs for many devices including printers, input devices, and even video cards. The problem there isn't with Microsoft. Device manufacturers just need to spend more resources on actually writing good driver software and better firmware. With bad drivers and firmware and a well written unified API, the high level API from Microsoft is just going to end up calling the crappy low level driver software and buggy firmware in the device and issues will still happen.
Almost 4 million people are trying out Windows 10 through the Insider program, so yeah you should expect many posts on every new Windows 10 build release.
I really liked Windows 10. Also i love windows 8, and people seen to be liking it more just because it dont have the dreaded start screen, which i prefer to this new style. I really hope there is some way to bring it back like on the first builds. Anyway, i needed to revert it on my home rig. It was impossible to play a lot of games on windows 10, on the build of a month ago. Several games worked only on borderless window; games like BF4 crashed often and alt-tab always mean crash. Total war have some weird behaviour in turn ending, what is probably related to some memory issue related to how its programmed in regard to memory allocation. Seriously i dont know how they are planning with games, since a lot of games, new and old titles alike crash or bad behave. Compatibility mode usually dont solve anything. If with new games, developers might do something, but on old titles, Microsoft will need to do something. The expected release is still on Summer? I remember in the days of W8 consumer preview, i was able to play almost flawless, but im less confident with internal changes done to W10 regard gaming.
Come on, do you seriously expect a beta of 2015 OS to make support for 2009 era graphics card some kind of priority? If anything, you should bug AMD, if THEY still even support it in drivers.
Most AMD GPU drivers are having a hard time up to this point, even the newer ones. The Windows Feedback app is flooded with complaints (including mine). Give it some time, this isn't RTM. Fixes are coming.
Is there anywhere to find a list of these AMD drivers issues on this build.
I just installed it and other than some minor page render issues that fixed themselves when I refreshed everything seem to be fine with Build 10122 and my 7970Ghz in a VM.
Including High DPI support in WinRT apps was never a real solution to High DPI on Windows because, well, many people don't use WinRT apps. At all. Ever.
OK, confession, I use the Netflix WinRT app, but only because it supports SuperHD while the browser Netflix does not, and I use ModernMix so that Netflix can switch between full screen and a window.
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sweatshopking - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
BUY A BIRTHDAY PRESENT WITH INPRIVATE?!!? NOBODY HAS EVER DONE THAT EVER.alin - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
LoL. You are right sir... :DPersonally i think its a feature valued only for porn watching :p
Gigaplex - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
My girlfriend simply calls it porn mode.Wardrop - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Plenty of other use cases. It's a good tool if you're a guest on a computer, allowing you to temporarily login to your Google or Facebook account on without having to log anyone out. I also use it for Googling private topics, like you know, that rash between my legs. Basically anything you wouldn't want someone else to see popup in your search suggestions.close - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Or when browsing sites that you know will dump cookies all over your browser and adjust behavior according to your actions. Like airline tickets sites that gradually increase price if you show particular interest in a specific destination. This can be mostly avoided by using porn-mode.jann5s - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
+1Jtaylor1986 - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Does Dragon Age Inquisition work on W10?Brett Howse - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
It sure does! Wish I had more time to play it.HollyDOL - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Dunno about Dragon Age Inquisition, but Witcher 3 works fine... Given the stress it puts on the machine chances for everything else are decent. Otoh, it manages to put my good old GTX580 to 59°C (while Civ 5 only manages 51). No idea if it is the game or some driver issue, but better keep an eye on temperatures to stay on safe side.Syklis - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Quote from geforce.com, GTX 580 specs: "Maximum GPU Temperature (in C): 97 C". So yeah, 59 C is nothing to worry about.Flunk - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
59C is positively frozen for an Nvidia GPU.Murloc - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
are you serious?59°C is like nothing.
My gtx 275 runs at 80°C when gaming and it's several years old now.
The resistance of the GPU to high temperatures hasn't changed in the meanwhile I think, given what Syklis says (i.e. max 97°C).
HollyDOL - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
well, should have noted it runs on water cooling... 8 degrees difference on that is a bit alarming.Gigaplex - Monday, May 25, 2015 - link
8 degrees difference between idling (single digit watts) vs load (triple digit watts) is not alarming in the least.HollyDOL - Monday, May 25, 2015 - link
8 degrees between Civilization V and Witcher 3 on same ambient temperature and long enough run (1hr) for thermal income and outcome of cooling system to stabilize is quite a bit. Ofc it is not an issue to worry about on custom cooling that is capable of managing quite a bit more heat dissipation than stock cooler. After all in my case I am still 38°C from deadline...What I am worried about is how would the temperature increase I noticed translate with the stock cooler. Given my water loop is a little bit over 3l volume that's quite a bit more energy...
DarkIllusion - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
How did you get Witcher 3 to work on win 10 ?I get these 2 errors when I try to run it: http://imgur.com/a/oTmjN
I got the game for free using a gog.com key that came with my 970.
I tried using win 7/8 AND win 10 drivers (the latest). Still had thoses errors.
halp lol
DarkIllusion - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
This fixed it "unblock “Witcher3.exe” from internet. You have to allow “Witcher3.exe” to accessing internet in firewall even you not online. "B3an - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
"We have fixed issues where fonts would render blurry on High DPI displays"That's a lie. The fonts are still blurry and/or messed up on Win32 programs. For instance all the Amin Tools, CMD, Device Manager all still have issues. The old bitmap icons are also a blocky deformed mess.
The problem is the code for this stuff is ridiculously ancient. Take Device Manager, it hasn't been updated for atleast 15 years.
All of this stuff needs be completely transformed to Universal Apps. That will instantly fix all DPI issues and enable regular updates/improvements.
jeffkibuule - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Ditto, the one true way to solve this is universal apps. Trying to fix Win32 apps will be fighting against a strong headwind. On a high DPi display apps like File Explorer and Task Manager just look funny.Can you imagine if File Explorer looked something like what's in this tweet? https://twitter.com/bdsams/status/6010513504625295...
Brett Howse - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Even though it may not be perfect, there needs to be a way to scale apps that set the High DPI aware flag but do not scale themselves. They may not look great, but they will at least be usable.This one tidbit has me more intrigued than almost anything that has come so far.
lilmoe - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
"the one true way to solve this is universal apps"Actually, XAML is the answer to DPI scaling, if we're to be precise. Universal apps, WinRT, and WPF all scale perfectly because they're all using XAML or a subset of XAML.
Gigaplex - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
XAML is just one potential answer. Any API properly designed around DPI scaling would suffice.lilmoe - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Correct, but I was speaking in terms of what Microsoft will be embracing in the future. According to build "Windows XAML" is the future of hardware accelerated, DPI aware UI they're focusing on, which isn't necessarily exclusive to universal apps.Flunk - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Regardless, we can't go back in time and totally redesign Win32 around DPI scaling so Win32 is no longer an option.inighthawki - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
My god that picture is so hideously ugly... The day file explorer looks like that is the day I lose all hope in Windows. The inbox Win10 apps are some of the absolutely worst designed applications I've ever used in my life, and the new design style/guidelines and visuals are a complete joke.B3an - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Cool story.Mail, Calender and Xbox are great new apps.
The new Calculator and Voice recorder are better, in terms of looks AND features/functionality.
And Photos is atleast an improvement over Windows Photo Viewer.
inighthawki - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
It's called an opinion. You don't have to agree with it.Flunk - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
It's a good thing too, otherwise we'd be paralyzed and unable to do anything by people who fear change.inighthawki - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Yeah, this is not fear of change, my friend. I've openly embraced most OSs and software prior to Windows 8. This is just an example of poorly design software. There are objectively bad choices in that screenshot ranging from poor contrast, bad iconography that is indistinguishable from one another, and low information density. Then there are just subjective qualities like the choices of color and that I think it's just straight ugly and unpolished. It looks like, at best, beta/prototype software.hughlle - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
First it was an opinion, now it is objective. Right.inighthawki - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
It is my opinion that it looks ugly and the inbox apps are a joke. It is an objective fact that there are design problems with it.hughlle - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Poor contrast is still an opinion :-)inighthawki - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
I suppose one could argue about "how much contrast is enough," but as a graphics developer who has used many different kinds of displays across Windows 8/10, white on gray without any kind of darker edge/seam in between them for contrast is always a bad combination. You will run into a variety of device configurations that cannot display the image above very well.Oxford Guy - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Because every opinion is equally supported by facts!Oxford Guy - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Dude walks in with a gun and says he's going to shoot you and your girlfriend.You look at him and say "Sure. I don't fear change."
mkozakewich - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Ugh, I couldn't stand all that whitespace. I don't know why everyone wants lists (like in that sidebar) that can only show ten items before it runs out of screen space. Also, they had better not do anything with a permanent tab bar constantly taking space and not allowing me to open multiple Explorer windows.In short, simplicity and beauty have to be very carefully balanced with information density and power. Microsoft needs to focus on giving their users the most power possible, rather than the most beautiful experience.
Gigaplex - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
It's not necessarily a lie. They said "issues", which is plural, but not all encompassing. They only had to fix a minimum of 2 (out of many) issues to make that a legitimate claim.bug77 - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Can you tell the difference between "we have fixed issues" and "we have fixed *all the* issues"?Michael Bay - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Is it some kind of especially bad tv soap opera?"Damn you, Microsoft, you`ve LIED to me1!!!"
Easier on the drama, please.
lilmoe - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
They already hinted at this, but I believe Microsoft has to be more aggressive in restricting and controlling the basic and mainstream hardware features, instead of giving OEMs and driver software free reign. My Synaptics trackpad (and its features), for example, is still controlled via Synaptics' software, and can get really finicky at times. Microsoft needs to incorporate all of the functionality in a unified API, and drivers should only serve as facilitation. This also should be the case for biometrics, cameras, scanners, printers, etc.This will ultimately solve (or at least drastically minimize) a huge number of inconsistencies in the overall experience of Windows. It should also make it a LOT easier to write software that takes better advantage of these peripherals. I can't stress enough the importance of this issue.
lordken - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
ehm, no. If you have HW with buggy driver complain to HW vendor. M$ don't need and shouldn't babysit everything. They just need to provide way for HW vendor to write drivers they want to enable full potential of their device.Also there is no "experience of windows" . It greatly depends on HW of your PC. So if you want uniformity or something,go to OSX.
lilmoe - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
After what we've seen from "M$" in their keynotes, you'd think there isn't any more "potential" in input devices, biometrics and the other mainstream stuff I mentioned to "unleash". Anything else would simply be a gimmick that no one wants.M$? Really? What is this, 1999?
Flunk - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
N0, p30p1e sti11 7h0ugh7 7h1s w4s c00l in 1999.metayoshi - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
That's not going to solve anything.In fact, Microsoft already has a ton of high level unified APIs for many devices including printers, input devices, and even video cards. The problem there isn't with Microsoft. Device manufacturers just need to spend more resources on actually writing good driver software and better firmware. With bad drivers and firmware and a well written unified API, the high level API from Microsoft is just going to end up calling the crappy low level driver software and buggy firmware in the device and issues will still happen.
jwcalla - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Why are there so many posts all over about every Windows 10 beta build?Gigaplex - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
Because lots of people care. Why are you here commenting if you don't?BMNify - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Almost 4 million people are trying out Windows 10 through the Insider program, so yeah you should expect many posts on every new Windows 10 build release.lilmoe - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Feedback on beta builds??hyno111 - Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - link
What about Recycle Bin icon...? Still ugly as ever?DarkIllusion - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
lmfao http://i.imgur.com/I8P3SoT.pngpostembr2 - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
I really liked Windows 10. Also i love windows 8, and people seen to be liking it more just because it dont have the dreaded start screen, which i prefer to this new style. I really hope there is some way to bring it back like on the first builds.Anyway, i needed to revert it on my home rig. It was impossible to play a lot of games on windows 10, on the build of a month ago. Several games worked only on borderless window; games like BF4 crashed often and alt-tab always mean crash. Total war have some weird behaviour in turn ending, what is probably related to some memory issue related to how its programmed in regard to memory allocation.
Seriously i dont know how they are planning with games, since a lot of games, new and old titles alike crash or bad behave. Compatibility mode usually dont solve anything. If with new games, developers might do something, but on old titles, Microsoft will need to do something. The expected release is still on Summer?
I remember in the days of W8 consumer preview, i was able to play almost flawless, but im less confident with internal changes done to W10 regard gaming.
fokka - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
it still won't let me install the drivers for my HD5450. testing the preview running the wrong resolution isn't much fun.Michael Bay - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Come on, do you seriously expect a beta of 2015 OS to make support for 2009 era graphics card some kind of priority?If anything, you should bug AMD, if THEY still even support it in drivers.
inighthawki - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Not a priority, no, but existing drivers should continue to work fine.lilmoe - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Most AMD GPU drivers are having a hard time up to this point, even the newer ones. The Windows Feedback app is flooded with complaints (including mine). Give it some time, this isn't RTM. Fixes are coming.Makaveli - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Is there anywhere to find a list of these AMD drivers issues on this build.I just installed it and other than some minor page render issues that fixed themselves when I refreshed everything seem to be fine with Build 10122 and my 7970Ghz in a VM.
Guspaz - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
Including High DPI support in WinRT apps was never a real solution to High DPI on Windows because, well, many people don't use WinRT apps. At all. Ever.OK, confession, I use the Netflix WinRT app, but only because it supports SuperHD while the browser Netflix does not, and I use ModernMix so that Netflix can switch between full screen and a window.
Lolimaster - Thursday, May 21, 2015 - link
So we gonna stick with the eye-cancer nuclear thing that is the folder icons?Arnulf - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
The very first thing that pops to my mind after seeing theirOne product family
One platform
One store
is
Ein Volk
Ein Reich
Ein Führer
...
Michael Bay - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Uncle Adolf did nothing wrong, you know.SirPerro - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link
Last time I said I still don't see ready for summer and people just attacked me.I still say the same. Fortunately the article agrees with me this time.
StanFL - Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - link
Has there ever been a MS major operating system release that didn't launch in October? I can't think of one.Ideemon - Saturday, May 30, 2015 - link
I have been using windows 10 pro tech preview since it came out.One problem I am having how is Windows Defender turned off can not change it.