There's just no pleasing some people! You release a WHQL driver that let's them fry eggs on their graphics card and they have the nerve to fuss about it.
So true, WHQL certification just means MS got some money, there is no link between stability and WHQL. In fact back when I had a nvidia card it was always so that the beta drivers were stable and the WHQL as flaky as hell - including coring the system..
The concept was OK though, where MS would make sure the stuff was up to snuff. It's a pity that never became the reality of it. Even when the WHQL system was just introduced it never worked like that.
Am I the only one who thinks it's crazy that every "AAA" game needs special driver hacks to support it? Why can't the developers follow the standard API rules? Will low-level APIs like DX12 finally make this go away?
Think of it as optimizations and adaptions to make it work best, not as hacks. Low level APIs should reduce this if used properly, at the cost of more development. This may not necessarily be more expensive, though, if the tuning is quicker.
They wont share drivers code as floss. So game devs can not optimize their games for drivers. Also when You have plenty of optimizations done by drivers, drivers will optimize for X or Y, but not both. So sometimes drivers need settings for specific game to activate specific optimization.
With Vulkan lots of that will go away. There will be at least one fully floss implementation... And those driver optimizations? Gone! Now it will be game engines optimizations and those game devs know about, can reason about, can measure fully.
Also SLI/Crossfire situation is even worse, right now.
ZERO transparency UNLESS OEM release driver specifically for Your game, and You had their engineer on Your team.
Vulkan will help there too! Knowledge&optimizations will be moved to game engines.
(PS. On Linux You already have floss implementations)
Yeah sure, one day soon all will be perfect and the roads will be golden and the NSA won't spy on you and the governments won't seek to make life as miserable as possible for their population and there won't be poverty and early beta software being released as being ready for release and nvidia and the like will be all honest and not even attempt to spike the system or cheat , one day soon...
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neonisin - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
Well lookit that! That dood in the nVidia driver news thread will be happy....I think.Morawka - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
this is WHQL certified like nvidia's. this is just a beta driver with no certificate.Morawka - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
this is Not***** is how i wanted to start that sentence.III-V - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
Remember Nvidia's card-frying 196.75 WHQL? WHQL certification is absolutely worthless.Alexvrb - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
There's just no pleasing some people! You release a WHQL driver that let's them fry eggs on their graphics card and they have the nerve to fuss about it.Wwhat - Monday, April 20, 2015 - link
So true, WHQL certification just means MS got some money, there is no link between stability and WHQL.In fact back when I had a nvidia card it was always so that the beta drivers were stable and the WHQL as flaky as hell - including coring the system..
The concept was OK though, where MS would make sure the stuff was up to snuff. It's a pity that never became the reality of it. Even when the WHQL system was just introduced it never worked like that.
icancto - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
is it possible to download the CCC v15.4 for windows 10?Ryan Smith - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
It would probably work. But you won't get WDDM 2.0, you'll get what amounts to Win8.1 drivers on Win10.Pissedoffyouth - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
The wddm 2 drivers I found to be really slow compared to the older betaTaristin - Monday, April 13, 2015 - link
But when will they update the bootcamp drivers for the R9 m295x for windows 8.1 or 10? :/ Its almost like the GPU doesn't exist.Mark_gb - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Other than you, who cares? Drivers came out from both companies to support the new game, and both have a few other new things in them.Stop whining.
JDG1980 - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Am I the only one who thinks it's crazy that every "AAA" game needs special driver hacks to support it? Why can't the developers follow the standard API rules? Will low-level APIs like DX12 finally make this go away?SleepyFE - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Right? What's the point of Direct3D and OpenGL if you have to rewrite the driver every time a new game comes out?MrSpadge - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Think of it as optimizations and adaptions to make it work best, not as hacks. Low level APIs should reduce this if used properly, at the cost of more development. This may not necessarily be more expensive, though, if the tuning is quicker.przemo_li - Friday, April 17, 2015 - link
Blame secretive OEMs.They wont share drivers code as floss. So game devs can not optimize their games for drivers.
Also when You have plenty of optimizations done by drivers, drivers will optimize for X or Y, but not both. So sometimes drivers need settings for specific game to activate specific optimization.
With Vulkan lots of that will go away. There will be at least one fully floss implementation...
And those driver optimizations? Gone! Now it will be game engines optimizations and those game devs know about, can reason about, can measure fully.
Also SLI/Crossfire situation is even worse, right now.
ZERO transparency UNLESS OEM release driver specifically for Your game, and You had their engineer on Your team.
Vulkan will help there too! Knowledge&optimizations will be moved to game engines.
(PS. On Linux You already have floss implementations)
Wwhat - Monday, April 20, 2015 - link
Yeah sure, one day soon all will be perfect and the roads will be golden and the NSA won't spy on you and the governments won't seek to make life as miserable as possible for their population and there won't be poverty and early beta software being released as being ready for release and nvidia and the like will be all honest and not even attempt to spike the system or cheat , one day soon...jann5s - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Does this driver contain references to the upcoming 3xx series?valinor89 - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Yes, and the news are bad...http://videocardz.com/55289/amd-radeon-rx-300-seri...
KateH - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Looks like the 7870 is destined to be The GPU That Never Dies- it's like NV's G92 all over again, with the 8800GT / 9800GT / GTX150 / GTX250valinor89 - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Any news on the "phase 2" Omega drivers?KateH - Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - link
Far Cry 4 enhancements, yes please. Downloading 15.4 as soon as I get home (and hoping it doesn't break more than it fixes)