Was there any mention of ECC on the RAM in these? The datasheets for the G-Series chips seem to indicate that ECC is supported, but frequently this is logic board specific.
The Thecus N7710G has been available for nearly a year - 7 bays, a (lightweight) desktop cpu, and a 10G card, selling in the 800-950 range. It uses ECC dimms.
The HP Microserver mentioned at the top has always been ECC capable, a key reason why so many DIY NASs use the platform.
Have you used the Thecus unit personally? Always open to see what customers think of their units.. The three that I have evaluated so far have left me deeply disappointed.
No. I have a collection of the Microservers (36L, 40L, 54L), all running solaris, and using virtualbox to spawn Ubuntu VMs with the usual media sharing software (itunes, dlna). I've been playing with an intel NUC as the plex server. The Thecus interests me, but I may just go with the Lenovo's Thinkservers as there are some very nice deals on the E3-1225 based units right now. $300-330 is about what I typically paid for the microservers, but with this I get a great cpu along with 4 ecc slots.
I have a QNAP NAS at home with HDMI out that I use to run Plex and feed the local TV. The other fifteen or so network connected devices in the house can use whatever software they want to view the movies stored on the NAS.
From the article above: "The VCE engine is supported by the firmware, enabling hardware-accelerated transcoding similar to what we saw with the TS-x51 and TS-x53 Pro units that used Quick Sync."
I presume AMD did not enter NAS market just yet as it's weak on CPU and strong on GPU which is the very opposite NAS needs? Also it's not the best for power efficiency. The worst part about AMD: even if there's AMDs chip which is clearly better than Intels ,it almost never end up in some decent product you can actually buy. Is Intel really such a evil preventing all this or AMD is just incompetent to get things done properly.
There may be a ring of truth in what you say. Just look up and try to find a decent spec AMD based laptop and you won't find one that isn't nasty plastic junk. No premium models to be found just bargain basement stuff. AMD should be able to push PS4/Xbox One level gaming laptops with ease.
Indeed, not sure why AMD allows OEM's to push out shabby parts to co-exist with their chips, which I do agree are better than INTEL's. HP certainly undermines AMD, due to kickbacks from Intel. My older custom built AMD Phenom ll 1090T workstation performs better than my newer i7 HP workstation.
I know this is capable of displaying 4K video via output, but is it actually capable of transcoding 4K video on the fly to a TV? (Through LAN or Wireless). Thanks.
Don't try to use this device as a standalone windows domain controller. The SAMBA and DHCP implementations are missing two CRITICAL components for it to work.
Samba is missing the ability to do DNS Forwarders...and DHCP does not allow you to input the OPTIONS command. Both of these functions are critical to having a working solution. If you want a standalone MS Domain Controller that works. Look elsewhere.
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zdw - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
Was there any mention of ECC on the RAM in these? The datasheets for the G-Series chips seem to indicate that ECC is supported, but frequently this is logic board specific.ganeshts - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
No ECC in these models. At this price point (~$1400 with 10G) in the COTS NAS space, ECC is very difficult to find.Reflex - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
Is the memory surface mount or is it a SODIMM? Could they accept more than 8GB?ganeshts - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
It is SO-DIMM, user-upgradeable.Alexvrb - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
The chart in the article even mentions that there's two RAM slots and has a max of 16GB. :/bsd228 - Monday, January 12, 2015 - link
The Thecus N7710G has been available for nearly a year - 7 bays, a (lightweight) desktop cpu, and a 10G card, selling in the 800-950 range. It uses ECC dimms.The HP Microserver mentioned at the top has always been ECC capable, a key reason why so many DIY NASs use the platform.
ganeshts - Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - link
Have you used the Thecus unit personally? Always open to see what customers think of their units.. The three that I have evaluated so far have left me deeply disappointed.bsd228 - Sunday, January 18, 2015 - link
No. I have a collection of the Microservers (36L, 40L, 54L), all running solaris, and using virtualbox to spawn Ubuntu VMs with the usual media sharing software (itunes, dlna). I've been playing with an intel NUC as the plex server. The Thecus interests me, but I may just go with the Lenovo's Thinkservers as there are some very nice deals on the E3-1225 based units right now. $300-330 is about what I typically paid for the microservers, but with this I get a great cpu along with 4 ecc slots.ddriver - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
Let's hear it for radeon graphics inside NAS solutions!Samus - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
lolxdrol - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
Well, it can actually help in encryption, checksums, stuff like that.. Question though if they actually use it for that.KingBacon - Monday, January 12, 2015 - link
I seems silly for an 8 bay NAS, but for 4 or 2?I have a QNAP NAS at home with HDMI out that I use to run Plex and feed the local TV. The other fifteen or so network connected devices in the house can use whatever software they want to view the movies stored on the NAS.
So in the end, it's only MOSTLY silly.
alxx - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
Can the gpu be used for transcoding or on the fly transcoding?Any direct support for svn or git repos ?
Alexvrb - Sunday, January 11, 2015 - link
From the article above: "The VCE engine is supported by the firmware, enabling hardware-accelerated transcoding similar to what we saw with the TS-x51 and TS-x53 Pro units that used Quick Sync."So yeah.
milkod2001 - Monday, January 12, 2015 - link
I presume AMD did not enter NAS market just yet as it's weak on CPU and strong on GPU which is the very opposite NAS needs? Also it's not the best for power efficiency.The worst part about AMD: even if there's AMDs chip which is clearly better than Intels ,it almost never end up in some decent product you can actually buy. Is Intel really such a evil preventing all this or AMD is just incompetent to get things done properly.
jabber - Monday, January 12, 2015 - link
There may be a ring of truth in what you say. Just look up and try to find a decent spec AMD based laptop and you won't find one that isn't nasty plastic junk. No premium models to be found just bargain basement stuff. AMD should be able to push PS4/Xbox One level gaming laptops with ease.fredglive - Thursday, January 15, 2015 - link
Indeed, not sure why AMD allows OEM's to push out shabby parts to co-exist with their chips, which I do agree are better than INTEL's. HP certainly undermines AMD, due to kickbacks from Intel. My older custom built AMD Phenom ll 1090T workstation performs better than my newer i7 HP workstation.gruffi - Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - link
"It supports out-of-order execution. Performance-wise, it is expected to be similar to that of the Silvermont cores in the Bay Trail SoCs."No. The Silvermont core is ~15-20% weaker at the same clock if the application isn't memory limited.
Smeich - Monday, April 6, 2015 - link
I know this is capable of displaying 4K video via output, but is it actually capable of transcoding 4K video on the fly to a TV? (Through LAN or Wireless). Thanks.Smeich - Monday, April 6, 2015 - link
Sorry, meant to say *capable of displaying 4K images via output*.gnalley - Saturday, January 23, 2016 - link
Don't try to use this device as a standalone windows domain controller. The SAMBA and DHCP implementations are missing two CRITICAL components for it to work.Samba is missing the ability to do DNS Forwarders...and DHCP does not allow you to input the OPTIONS command. Both of these functions are critical to having a working solution. If you want a standalone MS Domain Controller that works. Look elsewhere.