Is the pen lag even less than the galaxy note 10.1 2014 and the Microsoft surface pro 2? (I know they are in completely different price ranges but i want to compare)
And i am quite surprised that the stylus has less lag than note 3? That is a very costly device. And it doesn't fell laggy at all.
i think on my surface pro the pen lag is not bad considering pressure level sensitivity and the huge canvas and brushes i use. Taking note in onenote is awesome, although onenote is having hard time syncing a large print out document(no idea why). hover is critical when painting. Wacom layer is accurate if calibrated correctly, but it's basically impossible on the edges and corners. i'm using 300 point self calib , it's still very very bad on edge and corners. but for note taking it's good enough.
I read in another article that the tegra note actually has a fifth core in its processor clocked at about 800mhz which is designed specifically for the pen and it also looks for where the pen is on the screen about 300 times a second making it amazingly smooth
a fifth core is standard in the tegra 4 line, it's a low-power core intended to save battery life while doing basic tasks by allowing the other cores to be shut off. This Anandtech article says that NVidia is using that low power companion core to also process the stylus input, although from my recollection, the author listed the frequency of the core at something around 670MHz.
All in all which would be the best options for note taking (keeping in mind that larger screen is a plus but more weight is a minus)- note 10.1 2014, surface pro 2, this, or an ipad with an external stylus like wacom bamboo?
And if you are really serious - use pen and paper. And if the environmental impact is a major factor - scan, ocr and recycle the paper ;)
Nothing beats pen and paper, and especially not a glossy screen. It is mighty inconvenient to use a stylus on a glossy surface, it is just too damn slippery and does not have the nice grip of paper. I am looking to get some kind of a matte screen protector for my note 3, the pen feels much, much better on a matte surface, tested on my dell monitor, much more grip and much better control over the tip.
I use surface pro and it completely replaced paper(even math assignments). when i print the solution out, it looks the same as i wrote it on paper but cleaner.
What's wrong with the Note? Surface Pro also comes twice as much, and feels twice as heavy. That being said, I'd rather wait for Galaxy Note 12.2 if I was an artist.
I've got a Pro 2. Couple things I can think of for getting a Surface Pro(2) over a Note:
-I've yet to see a program that handles notes as well as OneNote does. The syncing, cross platform support, pressure sensitivity, drawing tools and little things like the print driver together are awesome. -Slightly bigger screen makes notes more comfortable, I find the Pro 2 to be barely big enough so even being 10% or so smaller the Note 10.1 will feel notably less comfortable to work with. -Looking at videos online, palm rejection is clearly better implemented with the Surface (Microsoft nailed this). This is a big deal for making the note taking process feel comfortable and natural.
An artist has even more reason to go Pro, with all the powerful tools like Adobe CS, Corel's painting programs and their add ons. Android's tools are a massive compromise in comparison, the couple artists I know have been less than satisfied with their run-ins with the Android options thus far.
Disagree. Sorry, but for less than 200 bucks it is not hands down for a Surface Pro 2. Not saying it's not a better tablet, what I'm saying this Tegra Note 7 is pretty hard to beat for the price. And don't be put off by the screen resolution. It's the same as the first Nexus 7 which reviewers raved about. Certainly not the best, but still very good.
If stylus works that well, it baffles me why Microsoft has not brought that tech to Surface 2 RT. That would be a killer feature at half of Surface 2 Pro price. In fact, if Surface 2 had a active digitizer (or alternative technology that works well), I wouldn't need Pro at all.
Same here, I was hoping for the Nexus 5 review, from the Hangouts they did last time, it sounds like it should be coming soon, hopefully tomorrow. I'm kind of waiting for "Brian's stamp of approval" before I hit the purchase button for the 32GB Nexus 5.
"but everything else is underwhelming, especially the screen."
While I think a 1080 screen would be nice, I can certainly see why Nvidia chose to go lower. Look at the on-screen benchmarks like T-Rex. This tab is easily 2x the speed of the 2013 Nexus 7. Nvidia, afterall, has made their living in games for the most part. This is actually a very smart choice for gaming concerns. You're not going to notice much in a game. Desktop/web, sure, but not in most games.
I find it really hard to believe that someone find noticeable latency in Note 3. That has just not been my experience. It seems to be on par with surface pro 2. Only issue is lack of onenote app with inking capability on Android but Microsoft is the one to blame for that.
There is noticeable latency on the note 3, but pretty much on part with wacom tablets I've used, I've never used a cintiq in order to be able to track the pen and the cursor side by side, so the latency is masked when the tablet is standalone and the result is visualized on another display.
That being said, latency is not all that bad, it is good enough for writing and occasional sketching, and hopefully will get better when google finally manage to deliver on their long-overdue promise of reducing android latencies to reasonable levels
Even though it is a larger form factor and not a phone, I think it should have been also compared to the galaxy note 3, feature and performance wise.
Also, maybe the review author should post a scan of his regular handwriting on paper to compare to what he did on the note... Right now I cannot tell whether it is case of terrible handwriting or a device, not particularly good at capturing it.
Same here if I still had use for a 7" tablet, but I haven't touched my Nexus 7 v1 since I got my Galaxy Note 3. Fitting a big-enough 1080p screen in my pants pocket beats a bigger screen that I have to carry. This might change with winter arriving and the switch to a coat with big pockets.
Could you retest the web battery life for the 2013 n7? I've had mine since launch and never been able to get anywhere close to 12 hours - 7 or 8 is more typical, and is what most users at xda report too. I know the display gets calibrated to 200 nits, but anand is the only review I've seen claiming anywhere near that kind of battery life.
The one reason I'd get this over the Nexus 7 is for the microSD slot.
Also, I would think the lower resolution would come with some battery savings. I wonder if the inefficiency here lies with the SoC or the display (or something else).
I can't wait for the day when the state of mobile gaming will be such that reviews can focus on actual gameplay benchmarks instead of all the synthetics.
You said nothing about the sub-par 1gb of ram! Do you have a test that could contrast it with 2gb devices, or at least some subjective impressions? I like to multitask a lot, open 10 tabs and switch from one app to the other, and I highly doubt this thing's superfast CPU can fully compensate for it. I've always felt that my Android devices improved mostly because they went from 512mb and 1gb to 2gb; that with my expectations and with the way I use my devices it has been more beneficial than upgrading to Qualcomm's excellent quad cores.
I'm actively looking at something better suited to my needs and with a wider screen than my current 2013 Nexus 7. An SD card to exceed 32gb cheaply - I have lots of PDFs and MP3s - is crucial because any storage becomes slow when full (and now 4.3's TRIM eats battery when it has to work hard) and the stylus implementation looks great, but I won't trade the Nexus' glorious screen, RAM and amazing battery life for some extra speed I hardly need and which is probably only available when RAM is not full.
I was awaiting HP's Slate 8 and I was getting excited about its screen, but it's now confirmed that it too has only 1gb RAM so I'll want to try it but I probably won't buy it unless it multitasks just as well as what I currently have. Does anyone know of any upcoming Tegra 4 device with enough RAM and under 500 grams? I might have to wait for Chinese tablets with that combo and leftover iPad mini screens (Retina or not) or 8.9 inch full HD panels...
Tend to agree - the 1GB or ram would be a killer for me. Think they would have been better charging $250 for a 2GB ram and a full HD screen. Then you might think nexus is nice but for $20 I get an SD card, stylus better sound and a faster soc. Easy sell.
Blame Java for that, it is one of the worst programming languages in terms of memory efficiency. And naturally, the lousy developers... heck, the skHype on my PC right now consumes 102 MB of ram, I'd say any developer who produces a simple messaging app that takes 100 mbs of ram idling should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.
nexus 5, 7 have 2GB, some android tablets now have 3GB.
iPad/iPhone handle less ram better but that's because they don't really multi task, and even then they don't have enough - e.g. browsing web have a load of tabs open and it'll keep reloading pages if you switch between them loosing anything you had done in them. I wouldn't buy an iPad with 1GB either.
Agree about the RAM.... really too bad esp RAM is crucial on Android. Course I don't need another tablet anyway bc I bought the nexus 7 2013 in July and got the Dell venue pro 8 in the awesome microsoft sale a few weeks back.
I don't really follow the tablet market. Is there anything with a similar price with similar GPU performance? Seems like it makes a strong case for the price as a gaming device, but do people actually play those 3D games on Android? I mean... touchscreen lag, controls... I don't even want to get started. You can use a controller, but that kills the portability unless maybe we're talking Shield.
Your 3d Mark physics score for the Asus T100 appears to be incorrect. I noticed the same thing in the initial review ofthe Asus T100. The number seems to mixed up with the graphics score.
Tegra Note pwns Nexus 7 in game framerates, and it will pwn even next version of Nexus 7 judging by how poor Nexus 7 GPU showed off in on-screen benchmarks. If you are after gaming tablet, Tegra Note is light years ahead of competition right now.
Your 3d Mark physics score for the Asus T100 appears to be incorrect. I noticed the same thing in the initial review of the Asus T100. The number seems to be mixed up with the graphics score.
-Sorry for the double post- accidentally hit reply instead of posting a new comment.
And yet for Shield and this Note copycat "Tegra Note," all you can say is "I am grateful for NVIDIA." Seriously? Where are all the rants (against Samsung) and lavish compliments (for HTC) along with detailed tables and color charts? How about some talk about accuracy of so-called sRGB mode that you are so grateful for?
If you think "not lying" is enough, think again. Your readers are more intelligent than that. "Lying by omission" is as bad a sin as any in this business.
You're awfully angry over Nvidia's attempt to provide a calibrated screen mode.
Obviously it's not great, but in all likelihood the cheaper display is the gating factor here, not the calibration setting. Samsung has no excuse when they're selling phones for 500+USD.
(OEM) Giving exclusives to bloggers guarantees some degree of positive reviews. (see also: "Shield" review) This is a sad reality where bloggers and corporations are shackled to the same food chain.
yeah, and especially for gaming it's absolutely top notch, just like iPad, but more than twice cheaper, I'll preorder a couple more Tegra Notes today for my buddies in commie-infested Canada LOL
One of the pictures says tegra note 3 instead of 7. Also, shouldn't the white point average be a deviance from 6504 and ordered from smallest to largest? Currently the worst offenders are on top, inconsistent with all the other display graphs.
Out of the resolution (and with it the required more RAM) I don't see any other advantages the Nexus 7 offers. The Tegra Note 7 is, prorably, more intended for young people, maybe those who study, with a small focus on gaming: - Much faster SoC - Pressure sensitive note taking to properly annotate PDF documents or take notes (awkward on the Nexus 7), the only other option to take proper notes is the the much more expensive Galaxy Tablet with a WACOM digitizer. - better sound, due to stereo front facing speakers - SD-Card support, which, in my opinion, for a tablet, is major advantage to load larger movies etc. on the tablet. - $30 less expensive
So considering the price and the features, I think it's a great tablet, and depending on the usage, offers more than the Nexus 7.
Still, I hope they also release a Tegra 10 Note, for maybe $300, with a HD Display and note taking capability, the would be awesome and a Galaxy Tab Note killer.
<quote> The Tegra Note 7 is, prorably, more intended for young people, maybe those who study, with a small focus on gaming </quote>
True, except for one thing. A 7 inch tablet seems small for full-time note-taking. 7 inches is a good size for using at various times throughout the day, but if I were a full-time student using it hours each day and expected to do so for years, I would definitely demand something at least 10 inches, preferrably larger, say 12 or 13.
Nvidia is doing something kinda weird lately. They're taking chances, very safely. It'll be very interesting when all these products reach a stage of maturity. 2015/2016 maybe?
I agree. They are interesting to watch at the moment. Losing out on all 3 console deals and the vast majority of the tablet/phone market leaves you with a hole to fill. I hope they pull through.
They're in a similar situation to AMD, but seemingly doing more about it.
they haven't been able to sell those tegra 4 chips to anyone. Many times those chips don't match the specifications they promise to hardware vendors and thus they have turned their back to NVidia. Now they are desperatly trying to find a market to tegra 4 chips at any cost.
I'm hoping for a 10-12" Tegra Note with a Tegra 5 chip and a higher resolution (at least 1920x1200), next year. Too bad Nvidia won't be making any ARMv8 chips next year, though, because I would've also liked that. Making Tegra 5 at 28nm will be pretty disappointing, too, but anyways, just show me a larger tablet with this tech.
Brian, as you were understandably comparing the Tegra Note7 against N7.2 and commented on the N7.2 being better in having 2band WiFi, then WHY did you omit the N7.2 Wifi Benchark ? (useful to publish speed v range)
Also, I realise the N5 is arguably too small to be considered a tablet, but being a high interest current model, would be very handy to update your tables with N5 benchmarks
I'm sad to see an Anandtech review distorted by personal preferences. Brian seems determined to deprecate or when possible ignore SD card capabilities. The ability to instantly swap huge amounts of media in and out is obviously important to anyone who seeking such a tablet for watching video. The Tegra 7 has this slot; the Nexus 7 sadly does not. But - this fact doesn't even make it into the concluding list of pros and cons!! Brian reluctantly gives the SD slot half of a disinterested sentence somewhere else, after the pages of fit and finish descriptions he is prone to. This is ludicrously unfair to the Tegra and a disservice to those readers who focus on the conclusions. I would pay $50 EXTRA to have the SD slot, on any tablet. The fact that Brian has no use for it doesn't mean it should be excluded from the review! Who's minding the store here?
Costs exactly the same here in Germany. 170^€ for the 8GB Sero 7 Pro and 165€ for a 16GB Nexus 7 2012. It seems to only have DDR2 RAM (at least the sellers advertise it as such), it lacks some battery power, but it does have miniHDMI and a back camera. Note exactly sure those are better specs.
The lack of expandable storage in the N7 was the only thing holding me back from getting a tablet finally. This may indeed be my solution! The battery life doesn't bother me, might just have to trial the screen in-store...But who knows when Australian (especially regional cities) will have them in...
Great article! One thing: in the table on the first page you list under "WiFi/Connectivity" GPS/GLONASS for the Tegra Note, but not for the Nexus. I'm pretty sure they have GPS as well. :)
This is a pretty good product all things considered. Not something for me, I'm happy with the Nexus 7 2013 and wouldn't trade the display for anything lower res and I already have a note taking device. But the cheaper price, beefier SoC, stylus make this quite competitive I believe. Kudos to nVidia!
The tablet, though worth the look over, is still slightly not as great as the Nexus 7, slightly by meaning a 40 percent to 100 percent difference http://versus.com/en/nvidia-tegra-note-7-vs-google... With higher resolution, lighter body and more storage, the money is worth every penny on the Nexus 7. http://some.ly/1dhuRBr Just my opinion, but check the stats yourself.
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adityarjun - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Is the pen lag even less than the galaxy note 10.1 2014 and the Microsoft surface pro 2? (I know they are in completely different price ranges but i want to compare)And i am quite surprised that the stylus has less lag than note 3? That is a very costly device. And it doesn't fell laggy at all.
zodiacsoulmate - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
i think on my surface pro the pen lag is not bad considering pressure level sensitivity and the huge canvas and brushes i use. Taking note in onenote is awesome, although onenote is having hard time syncing a large print out document(no idea why). hover is critical when painting. Wacom layer is accurate if calibrated correctly, but it's basically impossible on the edges and corners. i'm using 300 point self calib , it's still very very bad on edge and corners. but for note taking it's good enough.althaz - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Surface Pro 2 is much better around the edges and corners, just FYI :).newandroidfan - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
This EVGA Nvidia Note 7 tablet is a killer!! Check out the full review right here!! http://goo.gl/mMaaiAethanolson - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
This tablet is the same one as the HP Slate7 Extreme. Well... the back is different. Everything else is the same, even the speaker grill.Mr smurf - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
I read in another article that the tegra note actually has a fifth core in its processor clocked at about 800mhz which is designed specifically for the pen and it also looks for where the pen is on the screen about 300 times a second making it amazingly smoothYojimbo - Friday, November 15, 2013 - link
a fifth core is standard in the tegra 4 line, it's a low-power core intended to save battery life while doing basic tasks by allowing the other cores to be shut off. This Anandtech article says that NVidia is using that low power companion core to also process the stylus input, although from my recollection, the author listed the frequency of the core at something around 670MHz.adityarjun - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
All in all which would be the best options for note taking (keeping in mind that larger screen is a plus but more weight is a minus)- note 10.1 2014, surface pro 2, this, or an ipad with an external stylus like wacom bamboo?GrzegorzWidla - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
If you are serious about your notes, Surface Pro 2 hands down.retrospooty - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I thought that... Then I saw a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro in a best buy. Really nice alternative...Morawka - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
arent those yoga 2's $1500ddriver - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
And if you are really serious - use pen and paper. And if the environmental impact is a major factor - scan, ocr and recycle the paper ;)Nothing beats pen and paper, and especially not a glossy screen. It is mighty inconvenient to use a stylus on a glossy surface, it is just too damn slippery and does not have the nice grip of paper. I am looking to get some kind of a matte screen protector for my note 3, the pen feels much, much better on a matte surface, tested on my dell monitor, much more grip and much better control over the tip.
zodiacsoulmate - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I use surface pro and it completely replaced paper(even math assignments). when i print the solution out, it looks the same as i wrote it on paper but cleaner.Krysto - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
What's wrong with the Note? Surface Pro also comes twice as much, and feels twice as heavy. That being said, I'd rather wait for Galaxy Note 12.2 if I was an artist.frostyfiredude - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I've got a Pro 2. Couple things I can think of for getting a Surface Pro(2) over a Note:-I've yet to see a program that handles notes as well as OneNote does. The syncing, cross platform support, pressure sensitivity, drawing tools and little things like the print driver together are awesome.
-Slightly bigger screen makes notes more comfortable, I find the Pro 2 to be barely big enough so even being 10% or so smaller the Note 10.1 will feel notably less comfortable to work with.
-Looking at videos online, palm rejection is clearly better implemented with the Surface (Microsoft nailed this). This is a big deal for making the note taking process feel comfortable and natural.
An artist has even more reason to go Pro, with all the powerful tools like Adobe CS, Corel's painting programs and their add ons. Android's tools are a massive compromise in comparison, the couple artists I know have been less than satisfied with their run-ins with the Android options thus far.
fbales - Sunday, December 1, 2013 - link
Disagree. Sorry, but for less than 200 bucks it is not hands down for a Surface Pro 2. Not saying it's not a better tablet, what I'm saying this Tegra Note 7 is pretty hard to beat for the price. And don't be put off by the screen resolution. It's the same as the first Nexus 7 which reviewers raved about. Certainly not the best, but still very good.GrzegorzWidla - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
If stylus works that well, it baffles me why Microsoft has not brought that tech to Surface 2 RT.That would be a killer feature at half of Surface 2 Pro price. In fact, if Surface 2 had a active digitizer (or alternative technology that works well), I wouldn't need Pro at all.
BoneAT - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Performance and price point is nice, but everything else is underwhelming, especially the screen.I hoped for the Nexus 5 review haha, but I guess y'all waiting for tomorrow's update?
Wade_Jensen - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Has Brian lost his nexus 5 or something? I'm starting to think it must benchmark boost to keep him quiet that long.ISwearImCool - Saturday, November 16, 2013 - link
Or maybe, he really likes it. The HTC One review took like a month. He puts more time into things he likes. Compare HTC One vs S4amdwilliam1985 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Same here, I was hoping for the Nexus 5 review, from the Hangouts they did last time, it sounds like it should be coming soon, hopefully tomorrow.I'm kind of waiting for "Brian's stamp of approval" before I hit the purchase button for the 32GB Nexus 5.
augiem - Thursday, November 14, 2013 - link
"but everything else is underwhelming, especially the screen."While I think a 1080 screen would be nice, I can certainly see why Nvidia chose to go lower. Look at the on-screen benchmarks like T-Rex. This tab is easily 2x the speed of the 2013 Nexus 7. Nvidia, afterall, has made their living in games for the most part. This is actually a very smart choice for gaming concerns. You're not going to notice much in a game. Desktop/web, sure, but not in most games.
mkumar12345 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I find it really hard to believe that someone find noticeable latency in Note 3. That has just not been my experience. It seems to be on par with surface pro 2. Only issue is lack of onenote app with inking capability on Android but Microsoft is the one to blame for that.ddriver - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
There is noticeable latency on the note 3, but pretty much on part with wacom tablets I've used, I've never used a cintiq in order to be able to track the pen and the cursor side by side, so the latency is masked when the tablet is standalone and the result is visualized on another display.That being said, latency is not all that bad, it is good enough for writing and occasional sketching, and hopefully will get better when google finally manage to deliver on their long-overdue promise of reducing android latencies to reasonable levels
Drumsticks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Microsoft is to blame for wanting to differentiate their tablets? Google doesn't even share YouTube with windows 8 or WP8 sadly.And android would have multi-window apps if Samsung would share with everyone else. Companies like to differentiate themselves, that's nobody's fault.
ddriver - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Even though it is a larger form factor and not a phone, I think it should have been also compared to the galaxy note 3, feature and performance wise.Also, maybe the review author should post a scan of his regular handwriting on paper to compare to what he did on the note... Right now I cannot tell whether it is case of terrible handwriting or a device, not particularly good at capturing it.
DigitalFreak - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I'd rather spend $30 more and get the Nexus 7 2013.JeffFlanagan - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Same here if I still had use for a 7" tablet, but I haven't touched my Nexus 7 v1 since I got my Galaxy Note 3. Fitting a big-enough 1080p screen in my pants pocket beats a bigger screen that I have to carry. This might change with winter arriving and the switch to a coat with big pockets.Tehk17 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Why?BigLan - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Could you retest the web battery life for the 2013 n7? I've had mine since launch and never been able to get anywhere close to 12 hours - 7 or 8 is more typical, and is what most users at xda report too. I know the display gets calibrated to 200 nits, but anand is the only review I've seen claiming anywhere near that kind of battery life.Anonymous Blowhard - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Didn't see any mention of this; I see it does have Console Mode, but what about the NVIDIA GamePad Mapper software?geniekid - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
The one reason I'd get this over the Nexus 7 is for the microSD slot.Also, I would think the lower resolution would come with some battery savings. I wonder if the inefficiency here lies with the SoC or the display (or something else).
PC Perv - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
What did you use to take pictures? They are horrendous.drexnx - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
feel it all around? lolgeniekid - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I can't wait for the day when the state of mobile gaming will be such that reviews can focus on actual gameplay benchmarks instead of all the synthetics.Pirks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
It's already like that on iPad but why would you even be interested in any benchmarks on iPad?Simon42 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
You said nothing about the sub-par 1gb of ram! Do you have a test that could contrast it with 2gb devices, or at least some subjective impressions? I like to multitask a lot, open 10 tabs and switch from one app to the other, and I highly doubt this thing's superfast CPU can fully compensate for it. I've always felt that my Android devices improved mostly because they went from 512mb and 1gb to 2gb; that with my expectations and with the way I use my devices it has been more beneficial than upgrading to Qualcomm's excellent quad cores.I'm actively looking at something better suited to my needs and with a wider screen than my current 2013 Nexus 7. An SD card to exceed 32gb cheaply - I have lots of PDFs and MP3s - is crucial because any storage becomes slow when full (and now 4.3's TRIM eats battery when it has to work hard) and the stylus implementation looks great, but I won't trade the Nexus' glorious screen, RAM and amazing battery life for some extra speed I hardly need and which is probably only available when RAM is not full.
I was awaiting HP's Slate 8 and I was getting excited about its screen, but it's now confirmed that it too has only 1gb RAM so I'll want to try it but I probably won't buy it unless it multitasks just as well as what I currently have. Does anyone know of any upcoming Tegra 4 device with enough RAM and under 500 grams? I might have to wait for Chinese tablets with that combo and leftover iPad mini screens (Retina or not) or 8.9 inch full HD panels...
Dribble - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Tend to agree - the 1GB or ram would be a killer for me. Think they would have been better charging $250 for a 2GB ram and a full HD screen. Then you might think nexus is nice but for $20 I get an SD card, stylus better sound and a faster soc. Easy sell.ddriver - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
iphones have 1 gb of ram, so "logically" 1 gb ram is the best amount of ramzodiacsoulmate - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
not on android, but kitkat is opitimized for 512 and less ram? maybe facebook app will stop taking up 80mb of ram...ddriver - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Blame Java for that, it is one of the worst programming languages in terms of memory efficiency. And naturally, the lousy developers... heck, the skHype on my PC right now consumes 102 MB of ram, I'd say any developer who produces a simple messaging app that takes 100 mbs of ram idling should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.Dribble - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
nexus 5, 7 have 2GB, some android tablets now have 3GB.iPad/iPhone handle less ram better but that's because they don't really multi task, and even then they don't have enough - e.g. browsing web have a load of tabs open and it'll keep reloading pages if you switch between them loosing anything you had done in them. I wouldn't buy an iPad with 1GB either.
BallGum - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I would say wait for the Nexus 10 2013.It has a larger screen, that much we know for sure.
A potential leak occurred a short while ago which I have detailed over at my blog here: http://theballofgum.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/nexus-1...
I hope that information helps,
BallGum
ChanduG - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
1080P needs 2GB RAM otherwise you won't need 2GB.ESC2000 - Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - link
Agree about the RAM.... really too bad esp RAM is crucial on Android. Course I don't need another tablet anyway bc I bought the nexus 7 2013 in July and got the Dell venue pro 8 in the awesome microsoft sale a few weeks back.lever_age - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I don't really follow the tablet market. Is there anything with a similar price with similar GPU performance? Seems like it makes a strong case for the price as a gaming device, but do people actually play those 3D games on Android? I mean... touchscreen lag, controls... I don't even want to get started. You can use a controller, but that kills the portability unless maybe we're talking Shield.TraderHorn - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Your 3d Mark physics score for the Asus T100 appears to be incorrect. I noticed the same thing in the initial review ofthe Asus T100. The number seems to mixed up with the graphics score.kdr9hu5 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
And I stopped reading after the bit about the display resolution... For $30 just get the Nexus 7.Pirks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Tegra Note pwns Nexus 7 in game framerates, and it will pwn even next version of Nexus 7 judging by how poor Nexus 7 GPU showed off in on-screen benchmarks. If you are after gaming tablet, Tegra Note is light years ahead of competition right now.lmcd - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
On-screen means that the T4 was doing 2/3 or less of the work.TraderHorn - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Your 3d Mark physics score for the Asus T100 appears to be incorrect. I noticed the same thing in the initial review of the Asus T100. The number seems to be mixed up with the graphics score.-Sorry for the double post- accidentally hit reply instead of posting a new comment.
kishorshack - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
This review could have waitedI was waiting for nexus review :(
nedjinski - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Why isn't the Kindle Fire HDX in this review?PC Perv - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
May I remind your bias, Mr. Klug?HTC One Display: http://anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/10
Galaxy S4 Display: http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-...
Galaxy Note 3 Display: http://anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note...
And yet for Shield and this Note copycat "Tegra Note," all you can say is "I am grateful for NVIDIA." Seriously? Where are all the rants (against Samsung) and lavish compliments (for HTC) along with detailed tables and color charts? How about some talk about accuracy of so-called sRGB mode that you are so grateful for?
If you think "not lying" is enough, think again. Your readers are more intelligent than that. "Lying by omission" is as bad a sin as any in this business.
quickbunnie - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
http://anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/3205JoshHo - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
You're awfully angry over Nvidia's attempt to provide a calibrated screen mode.Obviously it's not great, but in all likelihood the cheaper display is the gating factor here, not the calibration setting. Samsung has no excuse when they're selling phones for 500+USD.
SilthDraeth - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I thought the original Nexus 7, and the successor had GPS, yet you left them off the comparison table.PC Perv - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
(OEM) Giving exclusives to bloggers guarantees some degree of positive reviews. (see also: "Shield" review) This is a sad reality where bloggers and corporations are shackled to the same food chain.tviceman - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
It really is a shame they couldn't go at least 1680x1050 on this tablet.Pirks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Preordered!bleh0 - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
No reason to get the Nexus 7 anymore. Outside of the display and a few other things the Tegra Note seems to be the superior device.Pirks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
yeah, and especially for gaming it's absolutely top notch, just like iPad, but more than twice cheaper, I'll preorder a couple more Tegra Notes today for my buddies in commie-infested Canada LOLDa W - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Commie-infested Canada? What Canada you talkin' bout? Sure ain't good ol western Canada, we shot all those damn commies a while ago!Pirks - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I'm talking about high taxes and "free" waitlist laden healthcare, smells like a commie to me :Pquickbunnie - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
One of the pictures says tegra note 3 instead of 7.Also, shouldn't the white point average be a deviance from 6504 and ordered from smallest to largest? Currently the worst offenders are on top, inconsistent with all the other display graphs.
Hrel - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Not even past the first page, Asus Nexus 7 wins. Resolution, by far. It doesn't even cost more, it costs less... wtf?UpSpin - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
Out of the resolution (and with it the required more RAM) I don't see any other advantages the Nexus 7 offers.The Tegra Note 7 is, prorably, more intended for young people, maybe those who study, with a small focus on gaming:
- Much faster SoC
- Pressure sensitive note taking to properly annotate PDF documents or take notes (awkward on the Nexus 7), the only other option to take proper notes is the the much more expensive Galaxy Tablet with a WACOM digitizer.
- better sound, due to stereo front facing speakers
- SD-Card support, which, in my opinion, for a tablet, is major advantage to load larger movies etc. on the tablet.
- $30 less expensive
So considering the price and the features, I think it's a great tablet, and depending on the usage, offers more than the Nexus 7.
Still, I hope they also release a Tegra 10 Note, for maybe $300, with a HD Display and note taking capability, the would be awesome and a Galaxy Tab Note killer.
Yojimbo - Friday, November 15, 2013 - link
<quote> The Tegra Note 7 is, prorably, more intended for young people, maybe those who study, with a small focus on gaming </quote>True, except for one thing. A 7 inch tablet seems small for full-time note-taking. 7 inches is a good size for using at various times throughout the day, but if I were a full-time student using it hours each day and expected to do so for years, I would definitely demand something at least 10 inches, preferrably larger, say 12 or 13.
Hrel - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Nvidia is doing something kinda weird lately. They're taking chances, very safely. It'll be very interesting when all these products reach a stage of maturity. 2015/2016 maybe?andrewaggb - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I agree. They are interesting to watch at the moment. Losing out on all 3 console deals and the vast majority of the tablet/phone market leaves you with a hole to fill. I hope they pull through.They're in a similar situation to AMD, but seemingly doing more about it.
polaco - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
they haven't been able to sell those tegra 4 chips to anyone. Many times those chips don't match the specifications they promise to hardware vendors and thus they have turned their back to NVidia. Now they are desperatly trying to find a market to tegra 4 chips at any cost.BryanC - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
Do you have a source for this? Other than Mr. Demerjian? #sighKrysto - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I'm hoping for a 10-12" Tegra Note with a Tegra 5 chip and a higher resolution (at least 1920x1200), next year. Too bad Nvidia won't be making any ARMv8 chips next year, though, because I would've also liked that. Making Tegra 5 at 28nm will be pretty disappointing, too, but anyways, just show me a larger tablet with this tech.darwinosx - Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - link
I'd much rather seen an iPad Mini review since people will actually buy and use those unlike this hunk of junk.Raghu - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
Pretty good demo of what its capablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZz4PjcAUk
darkich - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
Why aren't you including the Note 3 in your benchmark charts?Please answer
will2 - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
Brian, as you were understandably comparing the Tegra Note7 against N7.2 and commented on the N7.2 being better in having 2band WiFi, then WHY did you omit the N7.2 Wifi Benchark ? (useful to publish speed v range)Also, I realise the N5 is arguably too small to be considered a tablet, but being a high interest current model, would be very handy to update your tables with N5 benchmarks
Arbie - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
I'm sad to see an Anandtech review distorted by personal preferences. Brian seems determined to deprecate or when possible ignore SD card capabilities. The ability to instantly swap huge amounts of media in and out is obviously important to anyone who seeking such a tablet for watching video. The Tegra 7 has this slot; the Nexus 7 sadly does not. But - this fact doesn't even make it into the concluding list of pros and cons!! Brian reluctantly gives the SD slot half of a disinterested sentence somewhere else, after the pages of fit and finish descriptions he is prone to. This is ludicrously unfair to the Tegra and a disservice to those readers who focus on the conclusions. I would pay $50 EXTRA to have the SD slot, on any tablet. The fact that Brian has no use for it doesn't mean it should be excluded from the review! Who's minding the store here?29a - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
You should review the Sero 7 Pro. Better specs than the 1st Gen Nexus 7 for $50 less.Death666Angel - Thursday, November 14, 2013 - link
Costs exactly the same here in Germany. 170^€ for the 8GB Sero 7 Pro and 165€ for a 16GB Nexus 7 2012. It seems to only have DDR2 RAM (at least the sellers advertise it as such), it lacks some battery power, but it does have miniHDMI and a back camera. Note exactly sure those are better specs.JaredNihilist - Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - link
The lack of expandable storage in the N7 was the only thing holding me back from getting a tablet finally. This may indeed be my solution! The battery life doesn't bother me, might just have to trial the screen in-store...But who knows when Australian (especially regional cities) will have them in...meelahi - Thursday, November 14, 2013 - link
Will it be possible for Surface 2 to attain the same stylus capability given that they share the SoC?Death666Angel - Thursday, November 14, 2013 - link
Great article!One thing: in the table on the first page you list under "WiFi/Connectivity" GPS/GLONASS for the Tegra Note, but not for the Nexus. I'm pretty sure they have GPS as well. :)
This is a pretty good product all things considered. Not something for me, I'm happy with the Nexus 7 2013 and wouldn't trade the display for anything lower res and I already have a note taking device. But the cheaper price, beefier SoC, stylus make this quite competitive I believe. Kudos to nVidia!
ESC2000 - Friday, November 15, 2013 - link
Nice balanced review - thanks!ZaZaraPePerkins - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - link
The tablet, though worth the look over, is still slightly not as great as the Nexus 7, slightly by meaning a 40 percent to 100 percent difference http://versus.com/en/nvidia-tegra-note-7-vs-google... With higher resolution, lighter body and more storage, the money is worth every penny on the Nexus 7. http://some.ly/1dhuRBrJust my opinion, but check the stats yourself.
rishabgarg - Saturday, March 1, 2014 - link
is tegra note 7 support dongleor any other way to access internet except wifi option
chaitanya15 - Monday, August 11, 2014 - link
Where can I get the slide cover for Tegra Note 7 in India, either online or in the market. Unable to find one :(