At least it's an increase in performance. The first thing that pops into my head is when nVidia cut the 9600 GSO from 96 shaders to 48, although I'm sure there are many examples of crippled rebadges from both parties.
Our brilliant fellow posters won't notice the : " Now at 900mhz ! " in big yellow letters on the box, and of course they will fail to have a 250 watt PS and extra molex to power the 6 pin, and won't notice it has a 6 pin either. They're the best gamerz in the world too, and know it all.
"Where were you when the 8800gt became the 9800gt?"
That's not the same thing as selling two different products with the same name, which is the problem here, unless you're talking about the die-shrunk version of the 9800gt in comparison with the 65nm version. Yes, Nvidia has been very bad in the naming department, too. I doubt anyone will dispute that. That doesn't make AMD less culpable. There's a fallacy called tu quoque.
Maybe they should just laugh at the nerds and geeks and self builders who they know, for a fact, constantly scrounge for every last penny they can get in discount off an amd card - and scrutinize frame rates down to the 1fps at 1920X1200, but just can't read a cards major specs or power requirements...
I bet they laugh at the immense hilarity of the suddenly incapable and incompetent.
Maybe we should force testing on all upgraders and require them to have a license and be certified so we don't have idiots complaining all the time.
Haha, no. Free extra performance.. NVIDIA still rules the roost by a long way when it comes to fucked up naming. How about a GT 630, a GT 630 or a GT 630? (Yes, there are 3 of those) ... and so on, and so on. You could go through and list all the rebrands too. Believe me, this is nowhere NEAR a new low in naming.
Just f*ckin call it an HD7760 already. They've got 4 digits and still can't figure out how to make good use of them..
I'm already waiting for the "HD7970 GHz Hyper Ultra Mega Super XXX Edition", which in another universe might just have been called HD7980. OK, I was quoting the nVidia naming scheme here.. but I guess you get the point ;)
PCIe 2.0 offered more than 75W. But for the sake of compatibility, the old PCIe 1.x power figures are used. Besides.... I don't believe the target market of the HD7700 line is the kind that upgrades their mobos every CPU gen, either. It's not as slow as the GT520/HD6450 target group, but still...
Not to mention, some PCIe 2.0 mobos (remembering eVGA and some others, here) couldn't supply even 75W per PCIex16 slot (though this only mattered for people running tri/quad setups, apparently).
Absurd, just totally absurd. ATI and Nvidia have jumped the shark when it comes to naming practices... It's deceptive and anti-consumer. They should be ashamed. If I had a reasonable alternative, I would boycott their products.
This might be true if the better higher clocked card was coming out first but it's the opposite. It's coming out after the original and with more performance. The only thing that might trip a buyer up here is having to use a power connector (which they should have anyway on monder power supplies)
Does this mean that cooling requirements are up as well and we wont see this in a single slot card configuration? IMO one of the best features for the HD7750 is it's single slot availability.
Cooling requirements are up (power is heat), but I don't know if that means we won't see any single-slot cards. It is unlikely though for marketing purposes.
A free boost in performance and a added pci-e power slot for better overclocking, so whats to hate? No point to mix up the name, as it's nothing the older card can't already clock to.
That reasoning would make more sense if the slower part were discontinued instead of being sold simultaneously. This is bad business, plain and simple.
Do not sell different products with the same name.
They are for two different targets. 7750-800 is for low power usage (and no need for extra power connector) and 7750-900 is for more speed, but yeah... a little bit difference in the name would have been good! But there are room for both cards in the market, so no need to drop one out...
7750 and 7751? Exactly the same product, only one with power cord... 7750+ would be too Nvidia I supose?
So it get's a 100mhz core bump - big deal. Can't most of them overclock by 100 mhz anyways? I haven't tried it on mine, but this can't amount to much of a jump.
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Rookierookie - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
I'm pretty sure that this represents a new low in GPU naming.Assimilator87 - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
At least it's an increase in performance. The first thing that pops into my head is when nVidia cut the 9600 GSO from 96 shaders to 48, although I'm sure there are many examples of crippled rebadges from both parties.Oxford Guy - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Tu quoque fallacy.Nvidia could be worse than AMD and that doesn't exonerate AMD's shady business practices at all.
CeriseCogburn - Monday, June 11, 2012 - link
Our brilliant fellow posters won't notice the : " Now at 900mhz ! " in big yellow letters on the box, and of course they will fail to have a 250 watt PS and extra molex to power the 6 pin, and won't notice it has a 6 pin either.They're the best gamerz in the world too, and know it all.
Taft12 - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
I think it merely equals the low of the GTX 560 Ti - 448 cores edition ;(MonkeyPaw - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
Where were you when the 8800gt became the 9800gt?Maybe it should be called the 7750+.
Oxford Guy - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
"Where were you when the 8800gt became the 9800gt?"That's not the same thing as selling two different products with the same name, which is the problem here, unless you're talking about the die-shrunk version of the 9800gt in comparison with the 65nm version. Yes, Nvidia has been very bad in the naming department, too. I doubt anyone will dispute that. That doesn't make AMD less culpable. There's a fallacy called tu quoque.
CeriseCogburn - Monday, June 11, 2012 - link
Maybe they should just laugh at the nerds and geeks and self builders who they know, for a fact, constantly scrounge for every last penny they can get in discount off an amd card - and scrutinize frame rates down to the 1fps at 1920X1200, but just can't read a cards major specs or power requirements...I bet they laugh at the immense hilarity of the suddenly incapable and incompetent.
Maybe we should force testing on all upgraders and require them to have a license and be certified so we don't have idiots complaining all the time.
piroroadkill - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Haha, no. Free extra performance..NVIDIA still rules the roost by a long way when it comes to fucked up naming.
How about a GT 630, a GT 630 or a GT 630? (Yes, there are 3 of those)
... and so on, and so on. You could go through and list all the rebrands too.
Believe me, this is nowhere NEAR a new low in naming.
MrSpadge - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Just f*ckin call it an HD7760 already. They've got 4 digits and still can't figure out how to make good use of them..I'm already waiting for the "HD7970 GHz Hyper Ultra Mega Super XXX Edition", which in another universe might just have been called HD7980. OK, I was quoting the nVidia naming scheme here.. but I guess you get the point ;)
Soulkeeper - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
yeah, this makes little sense.FactoryFactory - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
Don't PCIe 3.0 slots offer up to 150W of power? So couldn't the card still run without aux power on a PCIe 3.0 (or 2.1) compatible motherboard?jeremyshaw - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
PCIe 2.0 offered more than 75W. But for the sake of compatibility, the old PCIe 1.x power figures are used. Besides.... I don't believe the target market of the HD7700 line is the kind that upgrades their mobos every CPU gen, either. It's not as slow as the GT520/HD6450 target group, but still...Not to mention, some PCIe 2.0 mobos (remembering eVGA and some others, here) couldn't supply even 75W per PCIex16 slot (though this only mattered for people running tri/quad setups, apparently).
Jumangi - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
AMD also announced they are letting the 7770's be clocked at 1.1 ghz by default now.Ryan Smith - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Those are just factory overclocks; it's not a new product, nor something partners couldn't already do.EnerJi - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
Absurd, just totally absurd. ATI and Nvidia have jumped the shark when it comes to naming practices... It's deceptive and anti-consumer. They should be ashamed. If I had a reasonable alternative, I would boycott their products.piroroadkill - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
What, because they're creating an option that increases performance at NO EXTRA COSTWhy are people so stuck up?
MrSpadge - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Because people see the benchmarks of the faster card, shop for it and end up with a slower model unintentionally.Oxford Guy - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Exactly. It's a bait and switch tactic.just4U - Monday, June 4, 2012 - link
This might be true if the better higher clocked card was coming out first but it's the opposite. It's coming out after the original and with more performance. The only thing that might trip a buyer up here is having to use a power connector (which they should have anyway on monder power supplies)Oxford Guy - Friday, June 1, 2012 - link
It should be illegal to sell multiple products under the same name.Gungel - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Does this mean that cooling requirements are up as well and we wont see this in a single slot card configuration? IMO one of the best features for the HD7750 is it's single slot availability.Ryan Smith - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
Cooling requirements are up (power is heat), but I don't know if that means we won't see any single-slot cards. It is unlikely though for marketing purposes.halo37253 - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
A free boost in performance and a added pci-e power slot for better overclocking, so whats to hate? No point to mix up the name, as it's nothing the older card can't already clock to.Oxford Guy - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - link
That reasoning would make more sense if the slower part were discontinued instead of being sold simultaneously. This is bad business, plain and simple.Do not sell different products with the same name.
haukionkannel - Sunday, June 3, 2012 - link
They are for two different targets. 7750-800 is for low power usage (and no need for extra power connector) and 7750-900 is for more speed, but yeah... a little bit difference in the name would have been good! But there are room for both cards in the market, so no need to drop one out...7750 and 7751? Exactly the same product, only one with power cord...
7750+ would be too Nvidia I supose?
Soulkeeper - Sunday, June 3, 2012 - link
Looks like my post got deleted."I don't see the point in this release"
If I had said it was great would my post have remained ?
Ryan Smith - Sunday, June 3, 2012 - link
Are you sure you're in the right article? No posts have been deleted. As a matter of policy we don't delete anything but spam.CeriseCogburn - Monday, June 4, 2012 - link
Yes, something is funny with their servers, all my posted comments (like 5 of them) suddenly disappeared 15 minutes ago.CeriseCogburn - Monday, June 4, 2012 - link
I also watched 4 pages of comments turn into 3.jbltecnicspro - Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - link
So it get's a 100mhz core bump - big deal. Can't most of them overclock by 100 mhz anyways? I haven't tried it on mine, but this can't amount to much of a jump.