12HPWR plug from ATX3.0 is known flawed in design. It cannot sustain spec'd rating. Any chance the supplied one is actually the replacement newer 12V-2x6 plug from ATX3.1 instead?
I hate repeating myself but everything about the plugs and wires is identical, save for the length of the Sense pins on the equipment's side. The new connector only ensures that the PSU (if compatible) will not engage if the plug is not fully inserted, that's about all there is to it.
The female - and male - pins are entirely the same. I have no idea where you picked up that nonsense, probably from some clickbait article of shorts, but, once again, the only difference is the length of the Sense pins and that is only taking place on the equipment's side too. You can read the specifications, they are publicly available. You should not be spreading misinformation.
I don't know why you'd think those power pins are the same. The whole purpose of the 12V-2x6 plug even existing is to fix the overheating flawed design of the 12VHPWR plug. Having a couple of shorter signal pins ain't gonna make the slightest difference to fixing it.
you're sort of right. It' not really fixed. But the shorter signal pins do help ensure it is inserted all the way before it runs current. Still has deeper flaws though
Yes, 12VHPWR plug has deeper flaws - weak female power pins in the plug. And that is what is really being fixed with the introduction of the replacement 12V-2x6 plug.
12VHPWR cables, both supplied with PSU and as adaptors, need to all be recalled and replaced with the newly introduced 12V-2x6 cables. All manufactures should be doing this immediately to stop the on-going damage to graphics cards.
"Ball-bearing engines are very reliable but not the quietest, however the PSU features a semi-passive design that will completely stop the fan while the load is low. "
For the price it's hard to argue with these results, but I can't help but think, realistically, this should be considered an 800-watt PSU. It's capable of 1050w but it's operational sweet spot and efficiency are more in-line with 750-800w units, where continuous current will never exceed 80% load, or 600-650w. Since load is really inconsistent during most use cases (gaming, burst performance, etc) it's good to have the overhead and potential for 1000w+ but if you have a system design that often hovers around 650w load (like an RTX 4080 + i7-13700k) this is among the best candidates out there.
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evanh - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
12HPWR plug from ATX3.0 is known flawed in design. It cannot sustain spec'd rating. Any chance the supplied one is actually the replacement newer 12V-2x6 plug from ATX3.1 instead?evanh - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
And if not already a 12V-2x6 cable set, do they plan to offer free replacements when they are available?jonnyGURU - Monday, December 4, 2023 - link
"12V-2x6" "cable set" is not a thing.Samus - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
I wouldn't say that. I haven't had any trouble with the 12HPRW connector, though I run a 4080 not a 4090.evanh - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Don't expect that to last. The plug is poor design.E.Fyll - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
12VHPWR and 12V-2x6 cables are identical. Only the connector on the equipment's side changes and only the length of the Sense pins.evanh - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Yep, and the power pins in the plug are a whole new design to correctly handle high currents.E.Fyll - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Not at all. As I said, they are identical.evanh - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
They are plug compatible for sure. Very much intended to fit the same socket. But the female pins inside the plugs are completely new.E.Fyll - Sunday, November 12, 2023 - link
I hate repeating myself but everything about the plugs and wires is identical, save for the length of the Sense pins on the equipment's side. The new connector only ensures that the PSU (if compatible) will not engage if the plug is not fully inserted, that's about all there is to it.evanh - Monday, November 13, 2023 - link
The female pins are a new design. That's the most important change.The adjusted pin length is just a minor tweak, not important in any way.
E.Fyll - Monday, November 13, 2023 - link
The female - and male - pins are entirely the same.I have no idea where you picked up that nonsense, probably from some clickbait article of shorts, but, once again, the only difference is the length of the Sense pins and that is only taking place on the equipment's side too. You can read the specifications, they are publicly available. You should not be spreading misinformation.
evanh - Monday, November 13, 2023 - link
I don't know why you'd think those power pins are the same. The whole purpose of the 12V-2x6 plug even existing is to fix the overheating flawed design of the 12VHPWR plug. Having a couple of shorter signal pins ain't gonna make the slightest difference to fixing it.MamiyaOtaru - Tuesday, November 14, 2023 - link
you're sort of right. It' not really fixed. But the shorter signal pins do help ensure it is inserted all the way before it runs current. Still has deeper flaws thoughevanh - Wednesday, November 15, 2023 - link
Yes, 12VHPWR plug has deeper flaws - weak female power pins in the plug. And that is what is really being fixed with the introduction of the replacement 12V-2x6 plug.12VHPWR cables, both supplied with PSU and as adaptors, need to all be recalled and replaced with the newly introduced 12V-2x6 cables. All manufactures should be doing this immediately to stop the on-going damage to graphics cards.
Threska - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
"Ball-bearing engines are very reliable but not the quietest, however the PSU features a semi-passive design that will completely stop the fan while the load is low. "Doesn't look vibration isolated from chassis.
Samus - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
For the price it's hard to argue with these results, but I can't help but think, realistically, this should be considered an 800-watt PSU. It's capable of 1050w but it's operational sweet spot and efficiency are more in-line with 750-800w units, where continuous current will never exceed 80% load, or 600-650w. Since load is really inconsistent during most use cases (gaming, burst performance, etc) it's good to have the overhead and potential for 1000w+ but if you have a system design that often hovers around 650w load (like an RTX 4080 + i7-13700k) this is among the best candidates out there.