I also fail to see how this deal benefits either company itsself. But the Voodoo brass gets their checks and the HP board can say they successfully copied Dell, so they're happy. The only way these gaming PC acquisition deals can make $$$ is if the large PC company offer the name of the gaming marque in retail stores, like how Alienware was sold in BestBuy. That way you get to charge a few hundred extra for a name.
Anyways, at least Falcon is still independent, so once I hit it rich I still have a vendor to use.
Obviously this will put a few million in the pockets of Mr Sood and company but I'm not sure the value to HP. No matter how cutting edge Voodoo remains or retian thier famous attention to details within thier boxes and personel tech support the people dropping paper for these boxes don't cater to the huge megaconglomerates like HP Dell and IBM for thier boutique purchases. They buy because its cool, hip, it's uncoventional, no one else on thier block has one and its not from ACME computer corp. It's psychological mostly wating to feel special elite and taken care of, HP will never be able to do that. I like to see the sales fiqures drop with Aleinware after Dell took over. You can bet its a drop even though it's a secret. Meh for these companies tosing away 50-100million on a chance is nothing though, it's not thier money.
wrong, they might be overpriced, but Voodoo PC and Alienware makes great boxes. The myth that just because you build it yourself it's better is so far off. Sure people who understand what they're doing make great custom pc's. But, I wouldn't suggest a newbie who ain't willing to really learn try to build a top of the line SLI box.
I have often used Falcon and Alienware sites to see which component combinations they use. Fastest MB + Fastest RAM + Fastest Video Card does not always = Best PC. Companies like Voodoo and Alienware add the value of testing various configurations before marketing them without making the same performance sacrifices the big OENs often make.
I only hope we don't see watering down of their respective systems.
Mext? I like that idea....Ok I jusr checked thier site , wow!... time to start our own. They charge $14433.18 for a water cooled 1900xt xfire box we could build for $2000-$3000 = profit!! and even more profit going to sell the company to the stiff suits on wallstreet. Damn thier is some dump people with a lot of money in this world.
not sure who "we" is, but tell "we" if they can build a a system like that for 3,000 - hell for 6,000 I will buy 10 of them at once! 14.5k is inflated yet, but you need to shop around, Falcon's paint job's alone are hella expensive. I was quoted one place for wanting a custom air brushed case (I already had the case...) $750 bucks. All these specality vendors like Falcon and Voodoo put anything they sell threw hella testing, which is good for the consumer. As a consumer you can't possibly test all the configurations they do to know what works best together. Typically I read 2 reviews of a MB, buy it, and end up having issues :)
Voodoo Case Voodoo propietary closest to LIAN LI PC-V1200 $200
Voodoo Water cooling but not on video cards, I'll give you video card cooling in our build - All Swifttech
-2 x MCW60 for videocards $100
-APOGEE for CPU $37
-MCP350™ 12 VDC Pump $71
-MCR220 Quiet Power 2X120mm Radiator $44
-2x Yateloon Low RPM Fans $8
- Res and tubing $30
Voodoo OMEN Elemental Intel Core 2 Duo X6800- ours: X6800 $934.00
Voodoo ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Digital Home - ours $237
High-end chassis = $200 minumum. Note that the $14000 PCs generally have custom paint jobs that can easily cost hundreds of dollars, sometimes more. Let's just say $1000 for kicks.
975X Motherboard = $250 or so. (Curse them if they use an Intel BadAxe2!)
X6800 = $1000, possibly a bit more given current prices.
2 x X1900 XT (probably should be X1950 by now) = $700-$900 depending on cards.
2x1024MB high-end DDR2 = $400-$550 these days.
2x150GB Raptor = $430 (or $540 for the windowed model).
2xDVD = $60 for cheap brands; $120-$150 for high-end (and/or SATA).
Was a 30" LCD included in that price? That's $2200 for Dell 3007WFP.
Watercooling, probably in the neighborhood of $250 for full system cooling.
X-Fi Platinum (likely) = $250.
Keyboard and mouse (probably wireless Logitech laser version) = $125. Paint matching would add another $50-$100 I would say at least.
700W PSU = $160; 1000W PSU = $360. (I'm just going extreme here; I don't know for sure what they're using as I'm too lazy to look.)
Bottom line: $6000 minimum to use off-the-shelf equivalents, without any paint job.
$7875 for maxed out version with paint (estimated at $1100 for painting all components)
What about some digital 5.1 speakers? There's another $300 if they use the Logitech Z-5500. Let's give them 15% profit, just because we are talking a high-end configuration. That puts the total of the maxed version at $9400 at least. Hopefully there's a full onsite 3-year warranty (or next-day shipping to and from the manufacturer), which could be $500 or so. Assuming top quality support, you might also get another $500 added on to pay those people, and I forgot the $130 for the OS.
Yes, I'm being a bit generous on some prices, and it is quite possible to get over $10000 in "costs" for the system builder. That's still $4500 in profit, but there is no way on earth you can match a full FNW $14500 system with any box costing under $4000 (not including LCD). Then you just need to get people to buy it, which is the really tough part. Heh.
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Indigo64 - Friday, September 29, 2006 - link
I'm hoping that this all works out - so we have Dellienware and now we have HooPoo Computers.dvinnen - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
Sood has an interesting blog post about the buying of his company here: http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/09/project-vampi...">http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/09/project-vampi...Sood has one of the most interesting blogs out there, and well worth reading through the archives.
Sunrise089 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
I also fail to see how this deal benefits either company itsself. But the Voodoo brass gets their checks and the HP board can say they successfully copied Dell, so they're happy. The only way these gaming PC acquisition deals can make $$$ is if the large PC company offer the name of the gaming marque in retail stores, like how Alienware was sold in BestBuy. That way you get to charge a few hundred extra for a name.Anyways, at least Falcon is still independent, so once I hit it rich I still have a vendor to use.
Zebo - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
Obviously this will put a few million in the pockets of Mr Sood and company but I'm not sure the value to HP. No matter how cutting edge Voodoo remains or retian thier famous attention to details within thier boxes and personel tech support the people dropping paper for these boxes don't cater to the huge megaconglomerates like HP Dell and IBM for thier boutique purchases. They buy because its cool, hip, it's uncoventional, no one else on thier block has one and its not from ACME computer corp. It's psychological mostly wating to feel special elite and taken care of, HP will never be able to do that. I like to see the sales fiqures drop with Aleinware after Dell took over. You can bet its a drop even though it's a secret. Meh for these companies tosing away 50-100million on a chance is nothing though, it's not thier money.SixFour - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
There still going to to be the most overpriced computers.flatblastard - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
I suppose this is good for people that do not build their own PCs.Dell = Garbage
Alienware = Trash
HP = Junk
Voodoo = Poopoo
(Dell + Alienware) / (HP + Voodoo) = Landfill
QueBert - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
wrong, they might be overpriced, but Voodoo PC and Alienware makes great boxes. The myth that just because you build it yourself it's better is so far off. Sure people who understand what they're doing make great custom pc's. But, I wouldn't suggest a newbie who ain't willing to really learn try to build a top of the line SLI box.Expensive and trash are two different things
mostlyprudent - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
I have often used Falcon and Alienware sites to see which component combinations they use. Fastest MB + Fastest RAM + Fastest Video Card does not always = Best PC. Companies like Voodoo and Alienware add the value of testing various configurations before marketing them without making the same performance sacrifices the big OENs often make.I only hope we don't see watering down of their respective systems.
Ecmaster76 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
Gateway buys Falcon Northwest!Okay, so who knows. But it seems like the general trend.
Zebo - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
Mext? I like that idea....Ok I jusr checked thier site , wow!... time to start our own. They charge $14433.18 for a water cooled 1900xt xfire box we could build for $2000-$3000 = profit!! and even more profit going to sell the company to the stiff suits on wallstreet. Damn thier is some dump people with a lot of money in this world.QueBert - Friday, September 29, 2006 - link
not sure who "we" is, but tell "we" if they can build a a system like that for 3,000 - hell for 6,000 I will buy 10 of them at once! 14.5k is inflated yet, but you need to shop around, Falcon's paint job's alone are hella expensive. I was quoted one place for wanting a custom air brushed case (I already had the case...) $750 bucks. All these specality vendors like Falcon and Voodoo put anything they sell threw hella testing, which is good for the consumer. As a consumer you can't possibly test all the configurations they do to know what works best together. Typically I read 2 reviews of a MB, buy it, and end up having issues :)cutting edge doesn't always equal = best b0x!
Zebo - Saturday, September 30, 2006 - link
Building 6? You aint started yet?Zebo - Saturday, September 30, 2006 - link
No problem that what were here for at anandtechLets review voodoo's $14,443 OMEN WATERCooled jober. Don't look at Jarrad's specs his are innacuate.
http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quotekitchen.aspx?p...">http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quotekitchen.aspx?p...
All I added was a second x1900xtx for gaming
Voodoo Case Voodoo propietary closest to LIAN LI PC-V1200 $200
Voodoo Water cooling but not on video cards, I'll give you video card cooling in our build - All Swifttech
-2 x MCW60 for videocards $100
-APOGEE for CPU $37
-MCP350™ 12 VDC Pump $71
-MCR220 Quiet Power 2X120mm Radiator $44
-2x Yateloon Low RPM Fans $8
- Res and tubing $30
Voodoo OMEN Elemental Intel Core 2 Duo X6800- ours: X6800 $934.00
Voodoo ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Digital Home - ours $237
Voodoo Stealth 600 Watt Modular Silent Power Supply - Ours Corsiar modular 620W $120
Voodoo CORSAIR TWINX 2GB 8500C5 DD2 - ours CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) (PC2 8500) $388
Voodoo 500 GiG HGST Sata 7200 RPM - ours Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000KS 500GB 7200 RPM $169
Voodoo OMEN Molded Digital Card Reader - Ours Spire Coolers SP150 16-in-1 USB 2.0 compliant & USB 1.1 backward compatible Card Reader $9
Voodoo Pioneer Dual Layer 16X DVD+-RW - ours Pioneer DVR-111D 16x Dual Layer Black IDE DVDRW $22
Voodoo ATi Radeon X1900XTX 512 SS - ours Sapphire Radeon X1900 XTX Video Card $344
Voodoo ATi Radeon X1900 Crossfire SS - ours SAPPHIRE Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition $374
Voodoo Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Music - ours Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Music $62.46
Vodoo Windows XP Professional - Ours Windows XP Professional $99
Grand total with better water cooling and quieter = 2938.26
$14,443 or $2938.26 if we do it.
JarredWalton - Friday, September 29, 2006 - link
$2000 - $3000? Hardly.High-end chassis = $200 minumum. Note that the $14000 PCs generally have custom paint jobs that can easily cost hundreds of dollars, sometimes more. Let's just say $1000 for kicks.
975X Motherboard = $250 or so. (Curse them if they use an Intel BadAxe2!)
X6800 = $1000, possibly a bit more given current prices.
2 x X1900 XT (probably should be X1950 by now) = $700-$900 depending on cards.
2x1024MB high-end DDR2 = $400-$550 these days.
2x150GB Raptor = $430 (or $540 for the windowed model).
2xDVD = $60 for cheap brands; $120-$150 for high-end (and/or SATA).
Was a 30" LCD included in that price? That's $2200 for Dell 3007WFP.
Watercooling, probably in the neighborhood of $250 for full system cooling.
X-Fi Platinum (likely) = $250.
Keyboard and mouse (probably wireless Logitech laser version) = $125. Paint matching would add another $50-$100 I would say at least.
700W PSU = $160; 1000W PSU = $360. (I'm just going extreme here; I don't know for sure what they're using as I'm too lazy to look.)
Bottom line: $6000 minimum to use off-the-shelf equivalents, without any paint job.
$7875 for maxed out version with paint (estimated at $1100 for painting all components)
What about some digital 5.1 speakers? There's another $300 if they use the Logitech Z-5500. Let's give them 15% profit, just because we are talking a high-end configuration. That puts the total of the maxed version at $9400 at least. Hopefully there's a full onsite 3-year warranty (or next-day shipping to and from the manufacturer), which could be $500 or so. Assuming top quality support, you might also get another $500 added on to pay those people, and I forgot the $130 for the OS.
Yes, I'm being a bit generous on some prices, and it is quite possible to get over $10000 in "costs" for the system builder. That's still $4500 in profit, but there is no way on earth you can match a full FNW $14500 system with any box costing under $4000 (not including LCD). Then you just need to get people to buy it, which is the really tough part. Heh.
Zebo - Friday, September 29, 2006 - link
I can paint a three cars with $1000 in paint using the best PPG urathanes and hardners..probably 500 cases. Being generous $35 paintCase does'nt cost more than $100 directly from china..there not buying from newegg it's custom and laser etched just for voodoo.
Hell all your prices are way out of line at MSRP not wholesale as you noted. The only ting accurate is watercooling.
No no monitor was included
Of course sales is the hard part these rip off boxes don't sell themselves.
Chadder007 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
What?? After their mistake of buying out Compaq?Also what is with everyone merging or being bought out here lately?
florida wilson - Friday, August 24, 2018 - link
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