Companies can announce as many products as they want, but I think its more important by far to deliver said products for prices that are realistic given the lack of interest by civilization at large when it comes to purchasing parts for a waning desktop form factor at a time when consumer electronics in general aren't landing sales and the industry as a whole is tightening its proverbial belt.
Also numbers on paper are one thing, but how something actually works is another. Benchmarks? Reviews? That would be helpful.
Considering how much they charge for going from 5600 to 6000, I'd say this product is only for those who just shopping by sorting price high to low.
Realistically tho, who would need only this much bandwidth but not more. CPU is not like GPU that needs to constantly stream large chunks of data in and out of the memory. If you need memory bandwidth, it's better to buy quad+ channel cpus. And you'd likely get benefit from having more cores and larger capacity while saving some money.
HEDT is dead. Mainstream killed it with huge IPC gains and Clock Speeds. Looking at the new Sapphire Rapids XEON W, it is no match for TR Pro which is very old. And moreover the new Xeon W is super expensive, the mobos are as well due to PCIe5.0 and with Zen 4 TR Pro which will be launching probably next year, it won't be cheap either.
So we have to stick with mainstream compute and gain the best performance possible, unfortunately that's the only way if you want latest technology. Otherwise one option is to buy used Xeon old decommissioned ones.
This is one of the reason along with LGA1700 engineering failure why I did not bother with the new ADL, RPL. This DIMM kit is too niche, it's more than Royal Elites with 1.5v at 4000MHz C15 kit. Very hard to run on these processors and DDR5 is barely saturated. It is going to take at-least 2-3 more CPU gens to make this technology worth, and mature. So better wait until 2025/26 and then buy the CPU / Mobo for a real overhaul of performance.
Also 1DPC is always the way to go DDR4 or DDR5. Always pick those mobos only. Although Tachyon Z590 is a mess. Only Apex Z590 and Unify were good. Z590 Dark is also a mess, poor 10th gen support, QC etc. Although ASUS is not clean sheet. It has a lot of QC nonsense as well.
1.45v is the DRAM VDD/VDDQ voltage provided by the PMIC on the DIMM itself although IMC voltage probably isn't much lower than that on the few chip/board combos that can actually hit 8000.
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PeachNCream - Monday, March 13, 2023 - link
Companies can announce as many products as they want, but I think its more important by far to deliver said products for prices that are realistic given the lack of interest by civilization at large when it comes to purchasing parts for a waning desktop form factor at a time when consumer electronics in general aren't landing sales and the industry as a whole is tightening its proverbial belt.Also numbers on paper are one thing, but how something actually works is another. Benchmarks? Reviews? That would be helpful.
erinadreno - Tuesday, March 14, 2023 - link
Considering how much they charge for going from 5600 to 6000, I'd say this product is only for those who just shopping by sorting price high to low.Realistically tho, who would need only this much bandwidth but not more. CPU is not like GPU that needs to constantly stream large chunks of data in and out of the memory. If you need memory bandwidth, it's better to buy quad+ channel cpus. And you'd likely get benefit from having more cores and larger capacity while saving some money.
Silver5urfer - Tuesday, March 14, 2023 - link
HEDT is dead. Mainstream killed it with huge IPC gains and Clock Speeds. Looking at the new Sapphire Rapids XEON W, it is no match for TR Pro which is very old. And moreover the new Xeon W is super expensive, the mobos are as well due to PCIe5.0 and with Zen 4 TR Pro which will be launching probably next year, it won't be cheap either.So we have to stick with mainstream compute and gain the best performance possible, unfortunately that's the only way if you want latest technology. Otherwise one option is to buy used Xeon old decommissioned ones.
Silver5urfer - Tuesday, March 14, 2023 - link
This is one of the reason along with LGA1700 engineering failure why I did not bother with the new ADL, RPL. This DIMM kit is too niche, it's more than Royal Elites with 1.5v at 4000MHz C15 kit. Very hard to run on these processors and DDR5 is barely saturated. It is going to take at-least 2-3 more CPU gens to make this technology worth, and mature. So better wait until 2025/26 and then buy the CPU / Mobo for a real overhaul of performance.Also 1DPC is always the way to go DDR4 or DDR5. Always pick those mobos only. Although Tachyon Z590 is a mess. Only Apex Z590 and Unify were good. Z590 Dark is also a mess, poor 10th gen support, QC etc. Although ASUS is not clean sheet. It has a lot of QC nonsense as well.
Oxford Guy - Tuesday, March 14, 2023 - link
Dual rank is faster where it matters with DDR3. I vaguely think that that's the case for DDR4 also.Is this now different for DDR5?
mode_13h - Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - link
For DDR5, the fastest (stock) configuration is dual-rank, 1 DIMM per channel.https://www.anandtech.com/show/17269/ddr5-demystif...
I've heard that single-rank DIMMs overclock better, which isn't surprising.
Oxford Guy - Tuesday, March 14, 2023 - link
What does Intel list as the maximum IMC voltage that is supported by Raptor Lake? I bet it's lower than 1.45.TresNugget - Thursday, March 16, 2023 - link
1.45v is the DRAM VDD/VDDQ voltage provided by the PMIC on the DIMM itself although IMC voltage probably isn't much lower than that on the few chip/board combos that can actually hit 8000.