Z490 is like B550, waste of money when you spend more than a B550, both have CPU only PCIe Gen 4.0 support. And none of these good Z490 even Z490 dark, do not have a 10G lan only MSI has it with Godlike but that's insanely expensive for a B550 class mobo. This is a good board with good number of SATA ports and unique design, but Intel sandbagged whole Z490 with that EOL chipset.
Not going to buy any Z490, waste of money. Looking forward for X670 if they remove that chispet fan to a new lithography node chipset design.
better sense might be having a double stacked main cpu fan (for redundancy, if necessary) and chipset cooling through channelized directed flow (or heatpipes)
hexus.net x570 "testing shows that using PCIe 4.0 peripherals under stress doesn't make much of a difference to power consumption" ??? "chipset power consumption in his testing to near 10W by attaching multiple devices and stressing them all. Then, with "almost no airflow" and a tiny chipset heatsink (pictured above) sat replacing the active fan cooler, the temps peaked at 74°C."
First ASUS absolutely does have motherboard with 10G LAN port. The ASUS Maximus Extreme has 10G and 2.5G LAN ports. It's the same price class as the one you mentioned, MSI Godlike. You say this is a good board but Intel sandbagged it with Z490 chipset, what chipset were they supposed to use? The 10th gen CPU's have a new 1200 pin socket and as far as I know there is no Z590 or anything else beyond Z490. So what were motherboard manufacturers(not just ASUS) supposed to do?
I love the two canted sets of SATA connectors on this board that flow with the lines of the heatsinks. The artistic design is phenomenal. Some semi-rigid RGB sata cables would look amazing on this board.
Whoever thought of this hasn't ever built a computer. How the hell do you even plug in two cables in the same plane (both bottom or both top) on either side of the V?? Hs the designer ever seen a SATA cable?
Have you ever seen a SATA cable with right angle ends ? They are pretty common, I have several in my computer and a bunch more sitting the drawer of my desk right now. I'm fairly positive the team that designed and worked on this board at ASUS have built more computers than you will ever see in your life. I don't think every one who worked on this board has $5000+ Gaming/Overclocking Enthusiast Computer at home but I am positive they have used this board and many many many others to build a lot of computers at work.
That's been a thing for years on these top-end overclocking boards. You can consistently get a couple hundred more MHz on the ram RAM with 2 slots compared to a 4-slot board. For a long while people would set RAM overclocking records on mini-ITX boards for that reason alone. The Apex represents Asus' most extreme overclocking offering (hence the name), so it would be a disservice to ship it with anything other than the 2-slot layout.
Complaining about it is like complaining that a Porsche 911 GT3 doesn't come with rear seats from the factory; it's just completely irrelevant criticism.
Your comparison with a Porsche would hold up if a Porsche were the size of a Greyhound bus.
But i accept your other point. I have to admit that i have never noticed an ATX board with 2 slots before. I guess the ubiquitous RGB blinken disco lights impeded my vision ;-)
If you were going to build a bus for racing you would take some seats out too. I think his comparison was pretty fair. This board is not aimed at casual users.
2 RAM slots are infinitely better and easier to overclock than 4 slots. The fact that there is only and the wiring/power delivery to the memory slots are features on this board people pay extra money for.
This board is 100% intended for and marketed towards the Enthusiast Overclocking community. Should try to know what you're talking about before you try and complain about something.
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Quantumz0d - Wednesday, July 1, 2020 - link
Z490 is like B550, waste of money when you spend more than a B550, both have CPU only PCIe Gen 4.0 support. And none of these good Z490 even Z490 dark, do not have a 10G lan only MSI has it with Godlike but that's insanely expensive for a B550 class mobo. This is a good board with good number of SATA ports and unique design, but Intel sandbagged whole Z490 with that EOL chipset.Not going to buy any Z490, waste of money. Looking forward for X670 if they remove that chispet fan to a new lithography node chipset design.
back2future - Wednesday, July 1, 2020 - link
better sense might be having a double stacked main cpu fan (for redundancy, if necessary) and chipset cooling through channelized directed flow (or heatpipes)back2future - Wednesday, July 1, 2020 - link
hexus.netx570
"testing shows that using PCIe 4.0 peripherals under stress doesn't make much of a difference to power consumption" ???
"chipset power consumption in his testing to near 10W by attaching multiple devices and stressing them all. Then, with "almost no airflow" and a tiny chipset heatsink (pictured above) sat replacing the active fan cooler, the temps peaked at 74°C."
UnCertainty08 - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
First ASUS absolutely does have motherboard with 10G LAN port. The ASUS Maximus Extreme has 10G and 2.5G LAN ports. It's the same price class as the one you mentioned, MSI Godlike.You say this is a good board but Intel sandbagged it with Z490 chipset, what chipset were they supposed to use? The 10th gen CPU's have a new 1200 pin socket and as far as I know there is no Z590 or anything else beyond Z490.
So what were motherboard manufacturers(not just ASUS) supposed to do?
Morawka - Thursday, July 2, 2020 - link
I love the two canted sets of SATA connectors on this board that flow with the lines of the heatsinks. The artistic design is phenomenal. Some semi-rigid RGB sata cables would look amazing on this board.Byte - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link
The V shapped SATA is some stupid reterted shlt. I want it on every mobo!MrVibrato - Saturday, July 4, 2020 - link
Wait until you see two M.2 slots forming an X. It's just a matter of time when some manufacturer will do it. Gamerrrrrs will lap this shit up...PrimozR - Sunday, July 26, 2020 - link
Whoever thought of this hasn't ever built a computer. How the hell do you even plug in two cables in the same plane (both bottom or both top) on either side of the V?? Hs the designer ever seen a SATA cable?PrimozR - Sunday, July 26, 2020 - link
And yes, I know the point of this board is not to plug 8 drives in it. And I agree. But then... WHy even put 8 SATA ports on it??UnCertainty08 - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
Have you ever seen a SATA cable with right angle ends ? They are pretty common, I have several in my computer and a bunch more sitting the drawer of my desk right now.I'm fairly positive the team that designed and worked on this board at ASUS have built more computers than you will ever see in your life. I don't think every one who worked on this board has $5000+ Gaming/Overclocking Enthusiast Computer at home but I am positive they have used this board and many many many others to build a lot of computers at work.
MrVibrato - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link
An ATX board with two memory slots. I guess now i have seen it all...Destoya - Saturday, July 4, 2020 - link
That's been a thing for years on these top-end overclocking boards. You can consistently get a couple hundred more MHz on the ram RAM with 2 slots compared to a 4-slot board. For a long while people would set RAM overclocking records on mini-ITX boards for that reason alone. The Apex represents Asus' most extreme overclocking offering (hence the name), so it would be a disservice to ship it with anything other than the 2-slot layout.Complaining about it is like complaining that a Porsche 911 GT3 doesn't come with rear seats from the factory; it's just completely irrelevant criticism.
MrVibrato - Sunday, July 5, 2020 - link
Your comparison with a Porsche would hold up if a Porsche were the size of a Greyhound bus.But i accept your other point. I have to admit that i have never noticed an ATX board with 2 slots before. I guess the ubiquitous RGB blinken disco lights impeded my vision ;-)
and187 - Tuesday, July 7, 2020 - link
If you were going to build a bus for racing you would take some seats out too. I think his comparison was pretty fair. This board is not aimed at casual users.UnCertainty08 - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
2 RAM slots are infinitely better and easier to overclock than 4 slots. The fact that there is only and the wiring/power delivery to the memory slots are features on this board people pay extra money for.This board is 100% intended for and marketed towards the Enthusiast Overclocking community.
Should try to know what you're talking about before you try and complain about something.
TresNugget - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
It's an 8 phase, not a 16 phase. ASP1405I is an 8 phase pwm and the board doesn't have a doubler.TresNugget - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
Also, the pwm is running in 8+0, not 7+1 as there's no iGPU power delivery.TresNugget - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
and they're 70A power stages, not 90.TresNugget - Friday, July 31, 2020 - link
Also, the system agent and io has its own power delivery apart from the 8 phase/16 stage right below the socket so definitely 8+0 not 7+1techilife - Monday, September 28, 2020 - link
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