It is pretty wild how much happened in the CPU world this year. Zen 2 feels like it's been out and impacting the market for ages, but it's only been around for six months. Can't wait to see Zen 3 sometime next year. It's going to feel like an eternity before Intel meaningfully competes, if the rumors about comet lake are true (10 core skylake). Rocket Lake is more up in the air, if that can come out soon enough and truly be a good step forward, maybe we'll get some excitement in the space before AMD falls asleep.
Zen2 is great, but Ryzen 2600 is an even better value than before. Just picked one up for $80 USD (second-hand).
Basic motherboards are available for like $80 or less, brand new. I picked up Team Vulcan 16GB 3000mhz for $46 USD on boxing day. That's a CPU, motherboard and RAM for just over $200.
If you have a spare case/PSU, you can whip up a whole 2600/16GB/5700 system for like $550.
"Sugon, despite never having interacted with AnandTech before, asked us to take down our short article, and set us some odd documents that had nothing to do with AnandTech. "
Now I'm intrigued; I really hope you're able to elaborate on this when you publish your article about the chip next year.
yet again another article whitewashed by Intel, despite the fact AMD has this Year ripped up the rulebook on what to expect out of a CPU on consumer, prosumer and server levels this article contains more images from Intel and more copy dedicated to Intel as well, in a Year where AMD has made all the moves and Intel has yet again been exposed delivering yet more rehashed and insecure products and in an article dedicated to CPUs we even feature some info regarding interviews with Raja about a totally unrelated product xe which doesn't even exist yet but of course its about Intel, just count the images featuring Intel vs AMD products and make your own conclusions, Linus had it right weasely, whether by habit or design the main editor of this site needs to have a closer look at its product Bias or be prepared to be called out
(a) This is a Year in Review. It's covering the product launches of both companies (b) Did you even read page 2? (c) If I was biased towards Intel to such a degree like you suggest, how come I still get interviews with AMD C-level executives, but none from Intel? Surely AMD would want to be as far away from me as possible. Not only that, but I used the word 'bloodbath' in my Threadripper review. I've never used a word that strong before. If I was glossing over to favor Intel overlords, would I ever use that language?
Alufan is a hardcore AMD fanboi, no amount of you justifying your writing will make a difference. Unless your entire article is "AMD good, intel bad" it wont be good enough for him.
I call it as I see it lets see what happens in the next few Months this is not the first time I have mentioned this bias nor am I the only one to have raised it
Because mobile CPU's have significantly lower profit margins and AMD is still recovering financially from the market manipulation that Intel used to attack them in the mid 2000's. AMD makes SIGNIFICANTLY more money per chip selling Epyc CPU's than they do selling dirt cheap laptop parts. Laptops are a low priority.
It must be convenient for AMD, having a scapegoat they can just keep harping on year after year. Perhaps AMD shouldnt have wasted so much money on bulldozer, sea micro, and wasted billions on their fab efforts, eh?
That is why Intel were fined, because its a scapegoat? Even now when the AMD product has been at a level or superior for some time the bigger off the shelf suppliers are still reluctant to provide AMD, market forces however are now starting to provide traction and am hoping that the new APUs will accelerate that and force Intel into innovating again lets face it we the end user reap the benefit and nobody in there right mind can deny the recent silliness that led to Linus and several other reviewers condemnation re the 10 series launch, this was Intel of old showing its hand
TheinsanegamerN must be convenient to be and intal fan, and know that intel will do what ever it takes ro stiffle competition, and stagnate the market and continue to lie about its process nodes year after year and not see how intel comes up with their own escape goats year after year.
"Sugon, despite never having interacted with AnandTech before, asked us to take down our short article, and set us some odd documents that had nothing to do with AnandTech. The partner who had the CPU at the booth no longer speak to us."
Was this written by a chinese engineer from Sugon?
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Drumsticks - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
It is pretty wild how much happened in the CPU world this year. Zen 2 feels like it's been out and impacting the market for ages, but it's only been around for six months. Can't wait to see Zen 3 sometime next year. It's going to feel like an eternity before Intel meaningfully competes, if the rumors about comet lake are true (10 core skylake). Rocket Lake is more up in the air, if that can come out soon enough and truly be a good step forward, maybe we'll get some excitement in the space before AMD falls asleep.Competition is good!
flyingpants265 - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
Zen2 is great, but Ryzen 2600 is an even better value than before. Just picked one up for $80 USD (second-hand).Basic motherboards are available for like $80 or less, brand new. I picked up Team Vulcan 16GB 3000mhz for $46 USD on boxing day. That's a CPU, motherboard and RAM for just over $200.
If you have a spare case/PSU, you can whip up a whole 2600/16GB/5700 system for like $550.
zepi - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
Maybe two more pictures should be added:AMD stock price from 1.1.2019 to 27.12.2019
And the equivalent of Intel.
Both are up considerably, but Intel had a very bumpy ride and ultimately AMD gained more.
rahvin - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
It's not meaningful to the article. All of the tech sector stocks are up as we're likely in a bubble, IMO a very big bubble.MBarton - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
Intel stock has been heavily aided by the fact that Intel has been buying back stock. Buybacks are the biggest reason their valuation hasn't fallen.Stochastic - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
2019 was the year of the CPU, and I'm guessing 2020 will be the year of the GPU.MBarton - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
2020 holds the biggest CPU showdown yet when Zen 3 arrives. Zen 2 helped bring AMD into parity. Zen 3 will be the standout CPU of 2020.DanNeely - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
"Sugon, despite never having interacted with AnandTech before, asked us to take down our short article, and set us some odd documents that had nothing to do with AnandTech. "Now I'm intrigued; I really hope you're able to elaborate on this when you publish your article about the chip next year.
Kishoreshack - Saturday, December 28, 2019 - link
Why no Zen 2 Mobile CPU from AMD?Either AMD isn't interested in mobile CPU's
or the delay is cause of TSMC
Korguz - Saturday, December 28, 2019 - link
or they are working on it. seems the release for zen2 based APUs is early 2020supdawgwtfd - Saturday, December 28, 2019 - link
It's coming...Their APU's appear roughly 6 months after their server/desktop/workstation chips.
You must be new.
alufan - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
yet again another article whitewashed by Intel, despite the fact AMD has this Year ripped up the rulebook on what to expect out of a CPU on consumer, prosumer and server levels this article contains more images from Intel and more copy dedicated to Intel as well, in a Year where AMD has made all the moves and Intel has yet again been exposed delivering yet more rehashed and insecure products and in an article dedicated to CPUs we even feature some info regarding interviews with Raja about a totally unrelated product xe which doesn't even exist yet but of course its about Intel, just count the images featuring Intel vs AMD products and make your own conclusions, Linus had it right weasely, whether by habit or design the main editor of this site needs to have a closer look at its product Bias or be prepared to be called outIan Cutress - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
(a) This is a Year in Review. It's covering the product launches of both companies(b) Did you even read page 2?
(c) If I was biased towards Intel to such a degree like you suggest, how come I still get interviews with AMD C-level executives, but none from Intel? Surely AMD would want to be as far away from me as possible. Not only that, but I used the word 'bloodbath' in my Threadripper review. I've never used a word that strong before. If I was glossing over to favor Intel overlords, would I ever use that language?
TheinsanegamerN - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
Alufan is a hardcore AMD fanboi, no amount of you justifying your writing will make a difference. Unless your entire article is "AMD good, intel bad" it wont be good enough for him.alufan - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
wrong my home has 5 pcs not all are AMD but the newest ones are for sure because the product is betterIan Cutress - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
"feature some info regarding interviews with Raja about a totally unrelated product xe which doesn't even exist yet but of course its about Intel">Massive picture of me with Lisa on the first page
alufan - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
I call it as I see it lets see what happens in the next few Months this is not the first time I have mentioned this bias nor am I the only one to have raised itHolliday75 - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
This is referred to as a hallucination.Definition of hallucination
1a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder of the nervous system or in response to drugs (such as LSD)
Korguz - Sunday, January 5, 2020 - link
well alufan.. if it upsets you that much... you are free and able.. to go somewhere else...MBarton - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
Because mobile CPU's have significantly lower profit margins and AMD is still recovering financially from the market manipulation that Intel used to attack them in the mid 2000's. AMD makes SIGNIFICANTLY more money per chip selling Epyc CPU's than they do selling dirt cheap laptop parts. Laptops are a low priority.TheinsanegamerN - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
It must be convenient for AMD, having a scapegoat they can just keep harping on year after year. Perhaps AMD shouldnt have wasted so much money on bulldozer, sea micro, and wasted billions on their fab efforts, eh?alufan - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
That is why Intel were fined, because its a scapegoat? Even now when the AMD product has been at a level or superior for some time the bigger off the shelf suppliers are still reluctant to provide AMD, market forces however are now starting to provide traction and am hoping that the new APUs will accelerate that and force Intel into innovating again lets face it we the end user reap the benefit and nobody in there right mind can deny the recent silliness that led to Linus and several other reviewers condemnation re the 10 series launch, this was Intel of old showing its handKorguz - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link
TheinsanegamerN must be convenient to be and intal fan, and know that intel will do what ever it takes ro stiffle competition, and stagnate the market and continue to lie about its process nodes year after year and not see how intel comes up with their own escape goats year after year.SteffanDavies - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
"Sugon, despite never having interacted with AnandTech before, asked us to take down our short article, and set us some odd documents that had nothing to do with AnandTech. The partner who had the CPU at the booth no longer speak to us."Was this written by a chinese engineer from Sugon?