"I n addition to usual DisplayPort and HDMI inputs, the new unit has a USB Type-C port." The proliferation of ways to connect a computer to a display borders on ridiculous.
Yup, and that means 6 types of adapter cables and dongles to be sitting around conference rooms and desks in said businesses. Life has never been so good for accessory manufacturers.
The benefit that you may be missing with the USB-C powered port, it delivers around 90w of power. You can connect the monitor to your newer Mac Laptop over usb-c and it will provide battery recharge power while acting as the attached display. In other words, it'll charge your computer so you no longer need a separate charging cable / plug on the mac - while it displays the video output.
I don't think sitting that close to a 43 inch screen is helpful from a productivity perspective. Beyond a certain point, a larger screen means it needs to be moved further away and the returns on added display area diminish in contrast to the increasing costs. This would be a good small conference room presentation display, but less so a desktop monitor for just one employee.
Actually, I completely disagree. I used to think like you until I tried it.
The 43 inch screens work better at 4K without scaling than the 32 inch ones, I have a 32 incher at home and have used the 43 inchers at work, and the bigger displays actually are better. This literally works like having 4 ~20 FHD screens in front of you and it's perfect in many regards for productivity.
Of course the use modes you describe also apply, you can move the display further away, it can be used in smaller conference rooms, but it really does best for the desktop @ 4K. The only thing that's maybe better is the ultrawide displays, but they lose a lot of vertical real-estate which is very useful for productivity.
The other really surprising thing, the 43 inch displays are not necessarily cheaper than the 32 inchers, this is probably because of features available on the 32 inchers that haven't made it to the bigger screens. I for one am very interested in seeing how this works out long term.
Fair points, although I haven't really seen comparable prices between 40+ inch and ~32 inch displays that are, beyond their size, otherwise similar in resolution, gamut, response time, and so forth. I'm sure there are 43 inch displays that are cheaper than 32 inch displays, but there is typically a feature disparity that explains the cost-to-area difference. Whether or not those features matter to a particular user are best left for a case-by-case assessment rather than the general terms in which the context of my prior post was made. I would also suggest regular eye exams if you happen to routinely work at less than arm's length away from a 43 inch display.
I currently use DELL's 27" 1440 monitors at work, and find the resolution (pixel density) just a little sub-par with respect to sharpness of non-magnified text (the antialiasing blurriness is still quite noticeable sometimes,) Extrapolating the pixel density to 4k (and slightly adjusting upward, to improve sharpness), leads me to conclude that - at least for me - the ideal size of a 4k desktop monitor should be around 36" or so. At that size, a slight curve in the screen would help as well - to reduce the difference between screen-eye distance at the center vs. the side-edges of the screen. For me, a curved 36" 4k screen would be the ideal workhorse for productivity; a flat 43" screen is close, but no cigar...
2160p at 36" would be the same pixel density as 1440p at 24", and I can confirm from using a Lenovo L24q that that is in fact an excellent pixel density for productivity.
That said, 38" shouldn't be terrible either, and possibly even better (by your numbers, the pixel density would be equivalent to 25" at 1440p). If only anyone from the OEM world were paying attention to these suggestions... *sigh*
This is how I use my 40" 4k Iiyama. Everyone says I'm nuts when they hear I have a 40" monitor, but when they realize it's practically 4 20" Full-HD monitors set up in a 2x2 grid they start to realize how useful it really is.
It's the first time I've had a single-monitor setup since about 2001.
You're interpreting my post in your own voice. A large monitor is useful because we don't have to use our applications full screen, we can use "windows" when we use "Windows".
"The UltraSharp U4320Q supports only sRGB color gamut, which is good enough for Windows…" This is such a low standard; Windows HDR integration could be a lot better to massively catch-up w/ MacOS.
Monitors of this ilk should have HDR10+, HLG, & Dolby Vision HDR w/ HDR1000. Weird Asus & others get this, but then again those features seems to priced at a point creative & eng professionals are easily able to acquire at work vs. other pros.
This is nice, coming from an old 2560x1600@30" with a 0.25 mm² pixel pitch, would be a good upgrade to 3840×[email protected]" with a 0.245 mm² pixel pitch.
Feels like at home, just a bigger display, without some annoying grid-borders, great for productivity.
yeah, it's 16:10@30" versus 16:[email protected]" but still, it's 1600p@30" versus [email protected]" ... I can live with that seeing as I gain more vertical space anyway ;)
Missing HDMI 2.1. Kind of weak in the "updates" category over the prior model. A wider color gamut is really going to be "required" for devices over 1K, imo, business or not. Engineers will definitely consider the lower gamut to be a negative. And worse, there are better panels for the same money.
-focus on general office productivity, usability and ease of use; -can show content from four different devices simultaneously in four quadrants for serious multitasking; -4K resolution with no need for scaling by the operating system; -IPS panel @42.5" (at this size almost all competitors use VA panels ... if not all); -ergonomic stand (height, tilt and swivel); -easy connectivity with USB type-C provided for single cable connections and up to 90W of power delivery.
I have the U3219Q and love the USB-C connectivity. I can bring my work laptop home and quickly connect. Or my son can hop on it with his Mac. Of course they come out with the 43" right after I got mine :) I find I have to use scaling at 4K with the 32" for my old eyes. The 43" would be amazing!
I’m hoping this is an RGB pixel stripe. Ive only ever seen 43” monitors so far that use strange stripes and cause big issues, particularly under Mac. I’m a multi monitor user and I find the idea of this size and resolution amazing as its 4 x 21.5” 1080p screens but can be used any way I wish. Just need to get the RGM pixel stripe and I’m set!
I needed more pixels as I work a lot with large excel sheets, powerpoint decks, word documents (books) and graphic design (adobe xd). At the same time, give my middle age, I use progressive lenses so I need the display to be a bit forgiving too by having more room to zoom in and out as I wish.
I bought a 32 inch 4K monitor but found that at native resolution, the menus were hard to see. In other works I would never be able to use the full 4k. I considerered a 38 inch curved screen, but for the price (usd1200) was not impressed with the meagre increase in pixels, especially on the vertical, where you only get 1600 pixels (cf 2160 pixels on a 4k screen).
In the end I purchased this Dell U4320Q and I am really happy. The panel is very homogenous, no dead pixels, no flickering, no shadows or problems that i had read wbout with so many other monitors regardless of manufacturer.
Initially, I thought I had made a huge mistake! It is a big monitor. But one day later, I find my prductivity has improved measurably. I use it at native resolution, at a distance of 60-70cms. The menus are readable. Text is fine. I am happy to edit docs at 0% zoom (i.e. no zoom). But when needed, I CTRL roll the mouse wheel to zoom into anything and still have a massive 4k pixel space to play with.
It's bright enough for working like this. I run it at 30% (evenings) to 50% (bright days) brightness. This panel is not bright enough to display corporate media e.g. in an office entrance on a sunny day. But for home/office use at short distance it's just fine. The dell software makes it very easy to change the warmth and brightness without messing around with the pesky buttons on the monitor itself.
Most of the time I find I use the left 2/3rds of the panel (Windows 10). I have my windows taskbar at the top which goes well with the top menus of applications. This minimizes eye travel. For apple users, you may find you have extra eye travel as the app menu is always stuck at the top and the content may be in a window somewhere in the middle of the screen. I typically reserve the right 1/3rd for reference windows e.g. file explorer windows with files to copy to or from or a browser running a page I am looking at at the same time as working on a document. So in this sense, a large panel is not a problem at all.
I don't use multiple computers connected into the monitor at the same time. I did connect my old macbook pro (2009 17" version) running Catalina (hacked). It was perfect and had no problems driving 4k at 30Hz plus it's own laptop screen.
All in all its a joy to use. I love seeing all 50-80 slides in a powerpoint deck so I can rearrange them, seeing huge amount of excel data and so on...! The same for viewing large numbers of photos in Google...! Everything is much faster.
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ABR - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
"I n addition to usual DisplayPort and HDMI inputs, the new unit has a USB Type-C port." The proliferation of ways to connect a computer to a display borders on ridiculous.lilkwarrior - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
In 2020, Having DP 2.0 (late fall), Thunderbolt 3 (USB4 will use TB3), and HDMI 2.1 is more than enough for a monitor.And that's just 3 ways. For Business & workforce use, that's not too many nor too few.
ABR - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
Yup, and that means 6 types of adapter cables and dongles to be sitting around conference rooms and desks in said businesses. Life has never been so good for accessory manufacturers.ABR - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
Edit: forgot about VGA and DVI (2 types!), both sadly alive and well in corporate environments.soultech - Saturday, May 23, 2020 - link
The benefit that you may be missing with the USB-C powered port, it delivers around 90w of power. You can connect the monitor to your newer Mac Laptop over usb-c and it will provide battery recharge power while acting as the attached display. In other words, it'll charge your computer so you no longer need a separate charging cable / plug on the mac - while it displays the video output.PeachNCream - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
I don't think sitting that close to a 43 inch screen is helpful from a productivity perspective. Beyond a certain point, a larger screen means it needs to be moved further away and the returns on added display area diminish in contrast to the increasing costs. This would be a good small conference room presentation display, but less so a desktop monitor for just one employee.niva - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
Actually, I completely disagree. I used to think like you until I tried it.The 43 inch screens work better at 4K without scaling than the 32 inch ones, I have a 32 incher at home and have used the 43 inchers at work, and the bigger displays actually are better. This literally works like having 4 ~20 FHD screens in front of you and it's perfect in many regards for productivity.
Of course the use modes you describe also apply, you can move the display further away, it can be used in smaller conference rooms, but it really does best for the desktop @ 4K. The only thing that's maybe better is the ultrawide displays, but they lose a lot of vertical real-estate which is very useful for productivity.
The other really surprising thing, the 43 inch displays are not necessarily cheaper than the 32 inchers, this is probably because of features available on the 32 inchers that haven't made it to the bigger screens. I for one am very interested in seeing how this works out long term.
niva - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
Meant to say 43 inch displays are not necessarily more expensive than the 32 inch ones...PeachNCream - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
Fair points, although I haven't really seen comparable prices between 40+ inch and ~32 inch displays that are, beyond their size, otherwise similar in resolution, gamut, response time, and so forth. I'm sure there are 43 inch displays that are cheaper than 32 inch displays, but there is typically a feature disparity that explains the cost-to-area difference. Whether or not those features matter to a particular user are best left for a case-by-case assessment rather than the general terms in which the context of my prior post was made. I would also suggest regular eye exams if you happen to routinely work at less than arm's length away from a 43 inch display.boeush - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
I currently use DELL's 27" 1440 monitors at work, and find the resolution (pixel density) just a little sub-par with respect to sharpness of non-magnified text (the antialiasing blurriness is still quite noticeable sometimes,) Extrapolating the pixel density to 4k (and slightly adjusting upward, to improve sharpness), leads me to conclude that - at least for me - the ideal size of a 4k desktop monitor should be around 36" or so. At that size, a slight curve in the screen would help as well - to reduce the difference between screen-eye distance at the center vs. the side-edges of the screen. For me, a curved 36" 4k screen would be the ideal workhorse for productivity; a flat 43" screen is close, but no cigar...Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
2160p at 36" would be the same pixel density as 1440p at 24", and I can confirm from using a Lenovo L24q that that is in fact an excellent pixel density for productivity.boeush - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
That said, 38" shouldn't be terrible either, and possibly even better (by your numbers, the pixel density would be equivalent to 25" at 1440p). If only anyone from the OEM world were paying attention to these suggestions... *sigh*bemymonkey - Saturday, January 4, 2020 - link
This is how I use my 40" 4k Iiyama. Everyone says I'm nuts when they hear I have a 40" monitor, but when they realize it's practically 4 20" Full-HD monitors set up in a 2x2 grid they start to realize how useful it really is.It's the first time I've had a single-monitor setup since about 2001.
Alistair - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
sorry i think you are completely wrongit is called "Windows" for a reason, and you can resize your content to be any size you want it to be
PeachNCream - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
There is nothing in my post that should trigger this sort of fight or flight response.Alistair - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
You're interpreting my post in your own voice. A large monitor is useful because we don't have to use our applications full screen, we can use "windows" when we use "Windows".lilkwarrior - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
"The UltraSharp U4320Q supports only sRGB color gamut, which is good enough for Windows…" This is such a low standard; Windows HDR integration could be a lot better to massively catch-up w/ MacOS.Monitors of this ilk should have HDR10+, HLG, & Dolby Vision HDR w/ HDR1000. Weird Asus & others get this, but then again those features seems to priced at a point creative & eng professionals are easily able to acquire at work vs. other pros.
mobutu - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
This is nice, coming from an old 2560x1600@30" with a 0.25 mm² pixel pitch, would be a good upgrade to 3840×[email protected]" with a 0.245 mm² pixel pitch.Feels like at home, just a bigger display, without some annoying grid-borders, great for productivity.
Priced almost the same like Dell UP3017.
Good news!
hbsource - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
The aspect ratio isn’t as good as the Dell 30”mobutu - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
yeah, it's 16:10@30" versus 16:[email protected]"but still, it's 1600p@30" versus [email protected]" ... I can live with that seeing as I gain more vertical space anyway ;)
jeremyshaw - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
Seems like you are gaining ~5" of vertical space in the move - 12.54cm, specifically.Alistair - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
better off buying Samsung's best 43 inch TV for half the price thoughFXi - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
Missing HDMI 2.1. Kind of weak in the "updates" category over the prior model. A wider color gamut is really going to be "required" for devices over 1K, imo, business or not. Engineers will definitely consider the lower gamut to be a negative. And worse, there are better panels for the same money.zodiacfml - Thursday, January 2, 2020 - link
It certainly has a sturdy stand but I don't think it should cost a lot more than a 4K TV.hanselltc - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
What is new about this one? Just curious. Is it the size?mobutu - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
-focus on general office productivity, usability and ease of use;-can show content from four different devices simultaneously in four quadrants for serious multitasking;
-4K resolution with no need for scaling by the operating system;
-IPS panel @42.5" (at this size almost all competitors use VA panels ... if not all);
-ergonomic stand (height, tilt and swivel);
-easy connectivity with USB type-C provided for single cable connections and up to 90W of power delivery.
flgt - Friday, January 3, 2020 - link
I have the U3219Q and love the USB-C connectivity. I can bring my work laptop home and quickly connect. Or my son can hop on it with his Mac. Of course they come out with the 43" right after I got mine :) I find I have to use scaling at 4K with the 32" for my old eyes. The 43" would be amazing!danielfranklin - Saturday, January 4, 2020 - link
I’m hoping this is an RGB pixel stripe. Ive only ever seen 43” monitors so far that use strange stripes and cause big issues, particularly under Mac.I’m a multi monitor user and I find the idea of this size and resolution amazing as its 4 x 21.5” 1080p screens but can be used any way I wish.
Just need to get the RGM pixel stripe and I’m set!
kkc - Wednesday, April 8, 2020 - link
I needed more pixels as I work a lot with large excel sheets, powerpoint decks, word documents (books) and graphic design (adobe xd). At the same time, give my middle age, I use progressive lenses so I need the display to be a bit forgiving too by having more room to zoom in and out as I wish.I bought a 32 inch 4K monitor but found that at native resolution, the menus were hard to see. In other works I would never be able to use the full 4k. I considerered a 38 inch curved screen, but for the price (usd1200) was not impressed with the meagre increase in pixels, especially on the vertical, where you only get 1600 pixels (cf 2160 pixels on a 4k screen).
In the end I purchased this Dell U4320Q and I am really happy. The panel is very homogenous, no dead pixels, no flickering, no shadows or problems that i had read wbout with so many other monitors regardless of manufacturer.
Initially, I thought I had made a huge mistake! It is a big monitor. But one day later, I find my prductivity has improved measurably. I use it at native resolution, at a distance of 60-70cms. The menus are readable. Text is fine. I am happy to edit docs at 0% zoom (i.e. no zoom). But when needed, I CTRL roll the mouse wheel to zoom into anything and still have a massive 4k pixel space to play with.
It's bright enough for working like this. I run it at 30% (evenings) to 50% (bright days) brightness. This panel is not bright enough to display corporate media e.g. in an office entrance on a sunny day. But for home/office use at short distance it's just fine. The dell software makes it very easy to change the warmth and brightness without messing around with the pesky buttons on the monitor itself.
Most of the time I find I use the left 2/3rds of the panel (Windows 10). I have my windows taskbar at the top which goes well with the top menus of applications. This minimizes eye travel. For apple users, you may find you have extra eye travel as the app menu is always stuck at the top and the content may be in a window somewhere in the middle of the screen. I typically reserve the right 1/3rd for reference windows e.g. file explorer windows with files to copy to or from or a browser running a page I am looking at at the same time as working on a document. So in this sense, a large panel is not a problem at all.
I don't use multiple computers connected into the monitor at the same time. I did connect my old macbook pro (2009 17" version) running Catalina (hacked). It was perfect and had no problems driving 4k at 30Hz plus it's own laptop screen.
All in all its a joy to use. I love seeing all 50-80 slides in a powerpoint deck so I can rearrange them, seeing huge amount of excel data and so on...! The same for viewing large numbers of photos in Google...! Everything is much faster.