Yeah but you can ignore those G.Skill 3200 modules as they are the older double stack 32x8Gb DIMMs. Nothing faster than 2666 using the new 16Gb chips on Newegg, yet.
Looking at those modules reminds me about my troubles trying to buy RAM (nice prices for a change) that can last more than a single generation of machine: With machines getting smaller, mobile, NUC and ITX the traditional DIMM form factor seems rather wasteful in terms of mainboard surface area and yet the extra real-estate on the BO-DIMMs (for BIG outline) vs. the SO-DIMMs doesn't really seem to matter any more: Available traces and TTL loads seem the limit not surface area (except perhaps for cooling some crazy overclocked ones).
I'd really like to be able to move modules between laptops, NUCs and desktops because sockets are after all there to decouple life cycles. But I cannot find 35/65/95 Watt mainboards with CPU sockets or even soldered SoC that accept SO-DIMMs, except some really special (old and expensive) embedded designs.
No vendor trying to jump for Mini-ITX and 4 sockets of SO-DIMM? There are back-sides and overlapping mounts for laptops and DDR4-2400/2666 doesn't seem to get that hot anyway.
Check asrock rack. Their server/professional boards are really good and they often have surprising, uncommon options/form factors, like 4x sodimm on an itx board
Yep, but those are LGA 2066 boards, not quite the price range I had in mind :-)
I am looking for laptop technology in a Mini-ITX form factor for low power/low noise server use and some flexibility in terms of RAM/storage/GPU/cooling configuration at a price below that of the laptop (after all, significant parts are left out). Basically that's what NUCs are, except for the Mini-ITX. Of course I can get a silent case for a NUC at premium prices, but most of the time a Noctual will do well enough: No need for silence, when unnoticeable is enough. A Mini-ITX gives me that choice and if I should need to put a beefy GPU (or some other PCIe card) into the board, I just move it into a mini-tower case: Modularity is wonderful and a PC feature since 1981!
But evidently I run against the constraints of scale, since my interest is either shared by too few, or someone wants to maintain market segmentation. I basically want Xeon D functionality at Xeon E3 economy. Since AMD pushed Intel to 6, 8 and soon 10 cores on the desktop, the premium on Xeon D/Xeon 2100 is under threat.
The ECC premium on Intel CPUs and chipsets has almost disappeared over the last years, perhaps because AMD put a pressure point there (alas, without validatiotion too often).
In some cases that doesn't matter, in others (ZFS) I still don't like taking chances.
It's a persistent problem in IT: All components are basically there, nobody want to sell them in the permutation I want. Am I being unreasonable?
I suspect that samsung module picture is an older "stock photo" as it's the A1 PCB layout (shared with D1 ECC) - any new OEM module especially DDR4-2666 and higher I'd expect to be on A2.
That said it would also be very surprising if there was a heatspreader on a UDIMM, and AVADirect's search function categorises them as no heatspreader so the article's definitely not wrong :-)
Officially: no. Unofficially: probably. Motherboard makers aren't going to validate and support it working, but hopefully someone else will test it out for us.
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DigitalFreak - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
Quick check of Newegg shows that going from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3200 more than doubles the price on a 32GB stick.extide - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
Yeah but you can ignore those G.Skill 3200 modules as they are the older double stack 32x8Gb DIMMs. Nothing faster than 2666 using the new 16Gb chips on Newegg, yet.abufrejoval - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
Looking at those modules reminds me about my troubles trying to buy RAM (nice prices for a change) that can last more than a single generation of machine: With machines getting smaller, mobile, NUC and ITX the traditional DIMM form factor seems rather wasteful in terms of mainboard surface area and yet the extra real-estate on the BO-DIMMs (for BIG outline) vs. the SO-DIMMs doesn't really seem to matter any more: Available traces and TTL loads seem the limit not surface area (except perhaps for cooling some crazy overclocked ones).I'd really like to be able to move modules between laptops, NUCs and desktops because sockets are after all there to decouple life cycles. But I cannot find 35/65/95 Watt mainboards with CPU sockets or even soldered SoC that accept SO-DIMMs, except some really special (old and expensive) embedded designs.
No vendor trying to jump for Mini-ITX and 4 sockets of SO-DIMM? There are back-sides and overlapping mounts for laptops and DDR4-2400/2666 doesn't seem to get that hot anyway.
Ej24 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Check asrock rack. Their server/professional boards are really good and they often have surprising, uncommon options/form factors, like 4x sodimm on an itx boardabufrejoval - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link
Yep, but those are LGA 2066 boards, not quite the price range I had in mind :-)I am looking for laptop technology in a Mini-ITX form factor for low power/low noise server use and some flexibility in terms of RAM/storage/GPU/cooling configuration at a price below that of the laptop (after all, significant parts are left out). Basically that's what NUCs are, except for the Mini-ITX. Of course I can get a silent case for a NUC at premium prices, but most of the time a Noctual will do well enough: No need for silence, when unnoticeable is enough. A Mini-ITX gives me that choice and if I should need to put a beefy GPU (or some other PCIe card) into the board, I just move it into a mini-tower case: Modularity is wonderful and a PC feature since 1981!
But evidently I run against the constraints of scale, since my interest is either shared by too few, or someone wants to maintain market segmentation. I basically want Xeon D functionality at Xeon E3 economy. Since AMD pushed Intel to 6, 8 and soon 10 cores on the desktop, the premium on Xeon D/Xeon 2100 is under threat.
The ECC premium on Intel CPUs and chipsets has almost disappeared over the last years, perhaps because AMD put a pressure point there (alas, without validatiotion too often).
In some cases that doesn't matter, in others (ZFS) I still don't like taking chances.
It's a persistent problem in IT: All components are basically there, nobody want to sell them in the permutation I want. Am I being unreasonable?
PeachNCream - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
I hate it when the DIMMs aren't buffered. Their floors are a lot more more dull looking.mickulty - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
I suspect that samsung module picture is an older "stock photo" as it's the A1 PCB layout (shared with D1 ECC) - any new OEM module especially DDR4-2666 and higher I'd expect to be on A2.That said it would also be very surprising if there was a heatspreader on a UDIMM, and AVADirect's search function categorises them as no heatspreader so the article's definitely not wrong :-)
Atari2600 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Will these work on X399? (Boosting Threadripper to 8x 32GB = 25GB DRAM)Grayswean - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Officially: no. Unofficially: probably. Motherboard makers aren't going to validate and support it working, but hopefully someone else will test it out for us.b3081a - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link
At least someone has already validated those kits against 2700X on a B350 board. I guess Threadripper won't be worse anyway.FYI: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ck0e1o/128gb...
Dark-Noir - Thursday, September 5, 2019 - link
Spotted this kit today in the EU, "Samsung DIMM 32GB, DDR4-2933, CL21-21-21 (M378A4G43AB2-CVF)": https://geizhals.eu/samsung-dimm-32gb-m378a4g43ab2...ftln - Friday, December 27, 2019 - link
Just ordered these, should be here by lunchtime today: VENGEANCE RGB PRO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR4 PC4-29200C18 3600MHZ DUAL CHANNEL KIT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-r...