I bought two of these for my college bound daughters. I thought for certain that I would have to get a keyboard repaired at some point - my daughters would eat and put on make-up while using their laptops. Some how.. some way.. they have not had a problem.
I'm kinda sad to see this one go .. it was the "Pug" on the MacBook world... A tiny dog with a big attitude.
I have to reply only because of the Pug comment - I have 2, and you couldn't be more right. Though one is more a stoner - the other will literally sass you back like a child if you scold her.
Actually they are expensive design statements for iphone users. The best feature they enable is continuity. As for the rest, fail on connectivity(dongle life), fail on keyboard, fail on CPU. Unfortunately gullible consumers will adapt for the brand despite its faults.
Also got a pair of these. I see them as true sucessor to the 2010 redesign of MB Air (which ironically lived just as long).
They are stuners to this day, nothing ever got close. Putting one in an backpack makes it disapear, just like an iPad. And just stop this iPad Pro is a MacBook replacement nonsense. Apple made it clear that iPad is going it’s own way - glass sheet with multitiouch display, while MacBook has it’s own - physical keyboard, giant trackpad and “foldable” design. MacBook took it the iPad way - extreme miniturization and low weight. And I just could not be more satisfied with this way of “hybrid” device.
Thinking iPad Pro is MacBook is a fantasy, iOS can never achieve this goal if tools that are uses to create applications on Mac - nothing is available from Apple to create XCode on IOS. Mac and especially later Mac can emulate iOS devices directly on it.
I also see no need for Hybrid device, and ARM version of Mac is never going to happen until above. It kind of silly but even the slowest of Intel I series cpus "Y Series" can do what ARM can't do.
I believe Apple knows this and probably keep Mac around for just for this purpose. Back in 2009/2010 I wanted to create iOS apps and I had to purchase a Mac to do it. Yes there are cross development platforms out there - but it probably not the same.
" It kind of silly but even the slowest of Intel I series cpus "Y Series" can do what ARM can't do."
False. Apple's own ARM cores even in the last year iPhones and iPads are faster than Intel's Y cpus (and many of the U CPUs too). The only thing holding Apple back now from transitioning to their own CPUs is need for quality JIT x86 to A64 transpiler (as they did before with transition to x86).
My mother got one of these in 2015/early 2016. It’s serving her well. I think the 8GB of memory and NVME storage caused it to age well, for now at least. She chose it over the 13 inch pro (the Air still didn’t have an IPS retina display), and for the portability she needed for basic productivity work I think she was right.
My main laptop is a 2013 Sony Vaio Pro 13 and it's held up relatively well in no small part because of its NVME drive and 8GB of RAM. The integrated gpu can't keep up with a lot of modern content (1080p60 youtube for example) and the battery life isn't what it once was, but for general usage it's still very usable.
I believe it. I actually had a tri-core Phenom II HP Envy from 2010 up until a few years ago. If the body had held up ( plastic frame stripped screws and broke apart by the screen hinge) it could have held on until 2017 with an ssd upgrade. We’re in a new era of CPU advancement now. I expect a lot of chips will be outdated soon as software takes advantage of more core.
That Phenom II was in a socket s1G or something like that. Could have upgraded to a quad core black edition and overclocked it. 35 watt TDP heatsinks though..
with the Macbook Air finally getting a refresh last autumn and the iPad Pro being a thing, this machine doesn't seem to fill a unique niche anymore. honestly i don't understand why this existed at all instead of them just updating the Air sooner...
First sentence is really hard to parse. "Apple has stopped to list its thin-and-light 12-inch MacBook notebook on its website." This construction is similar to, "Bob stopped to smell the flowers in his yard." The meaning is that Bob stopped (performing an unspecified activity) and, instead, smelled the flowers in his yard. It appears that Apple has stopped listing the MacBook on its website, which is the opposite of the meaning of the sentence you actually wrote. I'm not usually bothered by grammar errors and frequently err myself, but one that's big enough that your intended meaning is opposite of the meaning of what you wrote is significant enough to warrant comment.
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TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
I bought two of these for my college bound daughters. I thought for certain that I would have to get a keyboard repaired at some point - my daughters would eat and put on make-up while using their laptops. Some how.. some way.. they have not had a problem.I'm kinda sad to see this one go .. it was the "Pug" on the MacBook world... A tiny dog with a big attitude.
rrinker - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
I have to reply only because of the Pug comment - I have 2, and you couldn't be more right. Though one is more a stoner - the other will literally sass you back like a child if you scold her.skavi - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
how does a laptop "sass you back"?PeachNCream - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
Actual pugs, not laptops, are I think what rrinker is referring to.rrinker - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
Yes, Actual Pugs.id4andrei - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
Actually they are expensive design statements for iphone users. The best feature they enable is continuity. As for the rest, fail on connectivity(dongle life), fail on keyboard, fail on CPU. Unfortunately gullible consumers will adapt for the brand despite its faults.GC2:CS - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
Also got a pair of these. I see them as true sucessor to the 2010 redesign of MB Air (which ironically lived just as long).They are stuners to this day, nothing ever got close. Putting one in an backpack makes it disapear, just like an iPad.
And just stop this iPad Pro is a MacBook replacement nonsense. Apple made it clear that iPad is going it’s own way - glass sheet with multitiouch display, while MacBook has it’s own - physical keyboard, giant trackpad and “foldable” design.
MacBook took it the iPad way - extreme miniturization and low weight. And I just could not be more satisfied with this way of “hybrid” device.
HStewart - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
Thinking iPad Pro is MacBook is a fantasy, iOS can never achieve this goal if tools that are uses to create applications on Mac - nothing is available from Apple to create XCode on IOS. Mac and especially later Mac can emulate iOS devices directly on it.I also see no need for Hybrid device, and ARM version of Mac is never going to happen until above. It kind of silly but even the slowest of Intel I series cpus "Y Series" can do what ARM can't do.
I believe Apple knows this and probably keep Mac around for just for this purpose. Back in 2009/2010 I wanted to create iOS apps and I had to purchase a Mac to do it. Yes there are cross development platforms out there - but it probably not the same.
peevee - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link
" It kind of silly but even the slowest of Intel I series cpus "Y Series" can do what ARM can't do."False. Apple's own ARM cores even in the last year iPhones and iPads are faster than Intel's Y cpus (and many of the U CPUs too). The only thing holding Apple back now from transitioning to their own CPUs is need for quality JIT x86 to A64 transpiler (as they did before with transition to x86).
RedGreenBlue - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
My mother got one of these in 2015/early 2016. It’s serving her well. I think the 8GB of memory and NVME storage caused it to age well, for now at least. She chose it over the 13 inch pro (the Air still didn’t have an IPS retina display), and for the portability she needed for basic productivity work I think she was right.Destoya - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
My main laptop is a 2013 Sony Vaio Pro 13 and it's held up relatively well in no small part because of its NVME drive and 8GB of RAM. The integrated gpu can't keep up with a lot of modern content (1080p60 youtube for example) and the battery life isn't what it once was, but for general usage it's still very usable.RedGreenBlue - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
I believe it. I actually had a tri-core Phenom II HP Envy from 2010 up until a few years ago. If the body had held up ( plastic frame stripped screws and broke apart by the screen hinge) it could have held on until 2017 with an ssd upgrade. We’re in a new era of CPU advancement now. I expect a lot of chips will be outdated soon as software takes advantage of more core.RedGreenBlue - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
That Phenom II was in a socket s1G or something like that. Could have upgraded to a quad core black edition and overclocked it. 35 watt TDP heatsinks though..KateH - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
with the Macbook Air finally getting a refresh last autumn and the iPad Pro being a thing, this machine doesn't seem to fill a unique niche anymore. honestly i don't understand why this existed at all instead of them just updating the Air sooner...johncuyle - Thursday, July 11, 2019 - link
First sentence is really hard to parse. "Apple has stopped to list its thin-and-light 12-inch MacBook notebook on its website." This construction is similar to, "Bob stopped to smell the flowers in his yard." The meaning is that Bob stopped (performing an unspecified activity) and, instead, smelled the flowers in his yard. It appears that Apple has stopped listing the MacBook on its website, which is the opposite of the meaning of the sentence you actually wrote. I'm not usually bothered by grammar errors and frequently err myself, but one that's big enough that your intended meaning is opposite of the meaning of what you wrote is significant enough to warrant comment.Lau_Tech - Thursday, July 11, 2019 - link
Always thought it was a dumb idea to begin with. Has Apples laptop division done anything right the last four years?