IIRC, only the 15" comes with the Mx150, and I also believe HP is still using "only" their USB-C power adapters. No standards based ones will work.
Plus, the Razer's come with only Windows and the Synapse software.
Not a huge Razer fan, but I picked up the SB2 because I needed a small laptop with a great screen, and at the time it was one of the best options. I've been quite happy with it.
Im waiting for the people that were crapping all over the SB2 to come over to this article and get on their knees for Razor. And one of the Apple fanboys to point out its "obvious" flaws :D
Sheesh, some pretty harsh criticism on here! I'm actually interested in this laptop still because it's tiny and with the addition of a quadcore seems to be fairly powerful for an ultralight laptop. With a Thunderbolt port it also has the option of greatly boosting graphics ability too. Granted none of this is cheap but that's not really a surprise as specialized or unique electronic devices are. It's what I've been hoping for as my next laptop. Something small and very powerful processor wise but with an external GPU for when I might want to game.
Eh, if there were an option for no tribal tattoo logo on the outside of the screen, I'd be more interested. The BS13 otherwise a semi-professional looking ultrabook. With respect to gaming, the end user could always set the in-game resolution to 1600x900 and remove a lot of need for an external dGPU, but it would have made more sense to just ship with a 1600x900 panel to begin with since the screen is too small to use at native resolution without scaling anyway so the extra pixels are something of a waste of compute resources and electrical power.
Besides all that, the price is stupid. For the hardware listed, $999 - 1100 would have been more reasonable
You want 8th gen i7 U series, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD drive and high resolution display for 999$ ?! You are joking man. 512GB SSD alone is expensive. No way you could have that on 999 dollar laptop
My dad has laptop with Core i5-5200U and SSD drive and it very fast for office work, and it very good battery life. I don't see the problem with integrated GPU, it is not like people are going to play AAA games on it
You could buy a gaming laptop with GTX 1060 for same price or even lower, but those are laptops do not have good battery life, 512GB SSD or high resolution display (over 1080p). For business, office work, people who need laptop with good battery life these gaming laptops will be worse choice for them.
It's a Razer. The high price shouldn't be surprising - they're a premium brand, like Apple for example. And I have to grant them - the laptop is indeed very nice. Sure, for 999 you might be able to get a plastic-fantastic 2.5kg "GAMING!" laptop from Acer but that is simply no competition. Not if you ever travel with it...
The ONE thing that "Killer" provided that I liked was the software that allowed you to prioritize one application's packets over another. And to do that on the fly. I found that really nice to be able to de-prioritize something like steam when I didn't want it (like downloading a game in the background), but then re-prioritize it for whatever reason (if a specific game handed its networking capabilities off to steam rather than using its own stack). I've yet to find any reasonable way to do that other than registry hacks with lookups to CIDs vs. applications.
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wiineeth - Wednesday, October 18, 2017 - link
1699 usd and no gpu?Hp spectre x360 comes with a 4k touchs screen with pen, Nvidia Mx150 graphics and same processor and costs 200 dollars less
MaidoMaido - Wednesday, October 18, 2017 - link
Not to mention the 15W garbage ULV processormaroon1 - Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - link
Garbage ?! My dad has laptop with Core i5-5200U and SSD drive and it very fast for office worki7 8550U is now quad core with HT
Dr. Swag - Wednesday, October 18, 2017 - link
But it has rgb!aebiv - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
IIRC, only the 15" comes with the Mx150, and I also believe HP is still using "only" their USB-C power adapters. No standards based ones will work.Plus, the Razer's come with only Windows and the Synapse software.
Not a huge Razer fan, but I picked up the SB2 because I needed a small laptop with a great screen, and at the time it was one of the best options. I've been quite happy with it.
nerd1 - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
$1699? LOLManch - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
Im waiting for the people that were crapping all over the SB2 to come over to this article and get on their knees for Razor. And one of the Apple fanboys to point out its "obvious" flaws :Dfoxalopex - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
Sheesh, some pretty harsh criticism on here! I'm actually interested in this laptop still because it's tiny and with the addition of a quadcore seems to be fairly powerful for an ultralight laptop. With a Thunderbolt port it also has the option of greatly boosting graphics ability too. Granted none of this is cheap but that's not really a surprise as specialized or unique electronic devices are. It's what I've been hoping for as my next laptop. Something small and very powerful processor wise but with an external GPU for when I might want to game.BrokenCrayons - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
Eh, if there were an option for no tribal tattoo logo on the outside of the screen, I'd be more interested. The BS13 otherwise a semi-professional looking ultrabook. With respect to gaming, the end user could always set the in-game resolution to 1600x900 and remove a lot of need for an external dGPU, but it would have made more sense to just ship with a 1600x900 panel to begin with since the screen is too small to use at native resolution without scaling anyway so the extra pixels are something of a waste of compute resources and electrical power.Besides all that, the price is stupid. For the hardware listed, $999 - 1100 would have been more reasonable
Manch - Friday, October 20, 2017 - link
Surface Book 2 13.5 256GB 8GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 w/2GB $1999+ DGPU
+ screen disconnects for tablet use
+ Digitizer/PEN
+ insane amount of battery life
- No TB
- Half the RAM
- Half the SSD space
Razor Blade Stealth 13.3 512GB 16GB Intel 620 $1699
+ double the RAM
+ double the SSD
+ TB
+ EGFX
Normally wouldn't compare these two but the price is close. Both will have great build quality, and both are expensive.
flyingpants1 - Sunday, October 22, 2017 - link
Doesn't matter... With integrated Intel GPU, this computer is worth only $999 or maybe a bit more. For $1699 it should have a GTX1060 at least.maroon1 - Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - link
You want 8th gen i7 U series, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD drive and high resolution display for 999$ ?! You are joking man. 512GB SSD alone is expensive. No way you could have that on 999 dollar laptopMy dad has laptop with Core i5-5200U and SSD drive and it very fast for office work, and it very good battery life. I don't see the problem with integrated GPU, it is not like people are going to play AAA games on it
You could buy a gaming laptop with GTX 1060 for same price or even lower, but those are laptops do not have good battery life, 512GB SSD or high resolution display (over 1080p). For business, office work, people who need laptop with good battery life these gaming laptops will be worse choice for them.
damianrobertjones - Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - link
You and I know that the prices are inflated by false metrics. I'd rather have a machine WITH a 1060 than one without though.jospoortvliet - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
It's a Razer. The high price shouldn't be surprising - they're a premium brand, like Apple for example. And I have to grant them - the laptop is indeed very nice. Sure, for 999 you might be able to get a plastic-fantastic 2.5kg "GAMING!" laptop from Acer but that is simply no competition. Not if you ever travel with it...oRAirwolf - Friday, October 20, 2017 - link
Killer WiFi... So add $30 to the price so you can buy an Intel adapter off of Amazon to fix the WiFi.erple2 - Friday, October 20, 2017 - link
The ONE thing that "Killer" provided that I liked was the software that allowed you to prioritize one application's packets over another. And to do that on the fly. I found that really nice to be able to de-prioritize something like steam when I didn't want it (like downloading a game in the background), but then re-prioritize it for whatever reason (if a specific game handed its networking capabilities off to steam rather than using its own stack). I've yet to find any reasonable way to do that other than registry hacks with lookups to CIDs vs. applications.