For anyone curious, the Linux drivers were upstreamed in 4.11. Unfortunately this means that it won't work out of the box on most current non-rolling distributions. Ubuntu 17.04 and Fedora 25 are both on 4.10, latest Debian stable is 4.9.
They also offer drivers directly via their website, in a very linux friendly way I might add (soruce and even DKMS RPM's! Nice!) with support for any kernel >=3.10. So while it might not ship with your distro if you haven't anything relatively modern it shouldn't be an issue to get up and running.
~$ dnf info available kernel [...] Available Packages Name : kernel Arch : x86_64 Epoch : 0 Version : 4.11.6 Release : 201.fc25 Size : 101 k Repo : updates Summary : The Linux kernel URL : http://www.kernel.org/ License : GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted Description : The kernel meta package
100$ difference in design only? urgh one day we will have proper specifications pages again , ONE DAY , can't really complain about online store have shitty spec sheets if the manufacturers themself are getting just horrible at it themself.
You don't. But the rest of your network might benefit. This supports the new 5G, a speedup which doesn't require any new cables. And 10G in the future if you ever need it, and run new cables.
If you also use your gaming PC to encode videos for your NAS, it's way easier to do that, and move around the finished results if you're not bandwidth-constrained.
They don't, but if you can milk some extra money, why not.
Bandwidth is ample for gaming even on a 100 mbit nic, what really counts is latency. And considering that most gaming is online, then 99.99% of the latency is not from the nic but from the internet connection. So even a terabit nic won't make any difference.
Even in the case of lan gaming, even 1000mbit is ample, and there will likely be no tangible advantage in buying a 10gbit nic.
Many enthusiasts are waiting for a chance to upgrade their home networks when the price comes down. This is a stage along that route: some enthusiast gamers are typically on the crest of adoption, which lends itself to gaming styled cards. The rest of us (still on that crest but a bit further back) are waiting until it becomes more financially feasible.
if they ever get around to actually fitting a consumer 10G to the wireless ac/ad etc that you could start to actually make use of the higher data throughput
Probably not even that long. The 10G switches with aquantia hardware are supposedly coming in at around 30$ per port or 240$ for an 8port switch. 5GBase-T is going to be cheaper than that. Maybe not as low as 50$ cards initially but I would say within a year we should be in the 50$ 5Gb card + below 200$ 8x5Gb switch territory.
That's nice surprise, but they can go lower. BOM on these cards should be hovering around ~$35. $99 is still thievery. I wonder if it will work on PCIe 2.0 port?
This seems to have overlooked the fact that this card only has one port while Intel X540-based NICs with two ports can be had for $200~250. Yes, most people won't need the extra port and having *a* 10GBASE-T card for under $100 is great, but the price per port doesn't seem to be anything new.
Similarly, the ASUS ASUS XG-U2008 switch mentioned only has two 10GBASE-T ports, so it's unclear the pricing is especially noteworthy beyond the context of the continuing drop in the price of 10GBASE-T equipment. (To be fair, a switch oriented for home use with *any* 10 GbE ports is somewhat novel, so it's hard to compare pricing here. Also, switches with 10 GbE SFP+ ports tend to be significantly less expensive than those specifically featuring 10GBASE-T, so it's really the latter that's notable in these instances.)
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notashill - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
For anyone curious, the Linux drivers were upstreamed in 4.11. Unfortunately this means that it won't work out of the box on most current non-rolling distributions. Ubuntu 17.04 and Fedora 25 are both on 4.10, latest Debian stable is 4.9.hetzbh - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Fedora 26 will be out next weekvanilla_gorilla - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
They also offer drivers directly via their website, in a very linux friendly way I might add (soruce and even DKMS RPM's! Nice!) with support for any kernel >=3.10. So while it might not ship with your distro if you haven't anything relatively modern it shouldn't be an issue to get up and running.Madumi - Wednesday, September 13, 2017 - link
Any hints how to install the driver vanilla_gorilla? I'm on Ubuntu server 16.04 & nothing I've tried yet works...mooninite - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Fedora 25 has 4.11.7 today in updates (July 3rd). You can use this card with Fedora 25.vanilla_gorilla - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Came here to post that exactly:~$ dnf info available kernel
[...]
Available Packages
Name : kernel
Arch : x86_64
Epoch : 0
Version : 4.11.6
Release : 201.fc25
Size : 101 k
Repo : updates
Summary : The Linux kernel
URL : http://www.kernel.org/
License : GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted
Description : The kernel meta package
ddriver - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
The link to the " ROG Areion 10G" actually links to a graphics card.SodaAnt - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Scroll down :)plopke - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
100$ difference in design only?urgh one day we will have proper specifications pages again , ONE DAY , can't really complain about online store have shitty spec sheets if the manufacturers themself are getting just horrible at it themself.
koaschten - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
And now someone remind me why gamers need a 10G NIC?timbotim - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
So they can move their hands faster.defaultluser - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
You don't. But the rest of your network might benefit. This supports the new 5G, a speedup which doesn't require any new cables. And 10G in the future if you ever need it, and run new cables.If you also use your gaming PC to encode videos for your NAS, it's way easier to do that, and move around the finished results if you're not bandwidth-constrained.
ddriver - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
They don't, but if you can milk some extra money, why not.Bandwidth is ample for gaming even on a 100 mbit nic, what really counts is latency. And considering that most gaming is online, then 99.99% of the latency is not from the nic but from the internet connection. So even a terabit nic won't make any difference.
Even in the case of lan gaming, even 1000mbit is ample, and there will likely be no tangible advantage in buying a 10gbit nic.
vanilla_gorilla - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
>1000mbit is ampleI'd sure hope so ...
Ian Cutress - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Many enthusiasts are waiting for a chance to upgrade their home networks when the price comes down. This is a stage along that route: some enthusiast gamers are typically on the crest of adoption, which lends itself to gaming styled cards. The rest of us (still on that crest but a bit further back) are waiting until it becomes more financially feasible.BMNify - Wednesday, July 5, 2017 - link
if they ever get around to actually fitting a consumer 10G to the wireless ac/ad etc that you could start to actually make use of the higher data throughputdjc208 - Thursday, July 6, 2017 - link
To prevent their twitch upload and porn downloads from affecting their game?damianrobertjones - Monday, July 10, 2017 - link
...To backup your Steam folder to your file server as fast as possible.pixelstuff - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Great! Now build this into all the Mini-ITX motherboards and we'll be getting somewhere.Wardrop - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Still waiting for $50 cards, and < $200 8-port switches, 5G at least. Another 2 years maybe?lagittaja - Monday, July 10, 2017 - link
Probably not even that long.The 10G switches with aquantia hardware are supposedly coming in at around 30$ per port or 240$ for an 8port switch.
5GBase-T is going to be cheaper than that. Maybe not as low as 50$ cards initially but I would say within a year we should be in the 50$ 5Gb card + below 200$ 8x5Gb switch territory.
ViRGE - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
Excellent news. $99 is not cheap, but for 5G & 10G it's very reasonable.Now get the unmanaged switches to $50/port or so, and I'm sold.
Vatharian - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
That's nice surprise, but they can go lower. BOM on these cards should be hovering around ~$35. $99 is still thievery. I wonder if it will work on PCIe 2.0 port?Samus - Wednesday, July 5, 2017 - link
Finally.Daniel Egger - Wednesday, July 5, 2017 - link
Looking for some credible testing to learn whether this sucks or not. Or IOW: Is Aquantia the Realtek of 10GBase-T networking?chaos215bar2 - Wednesday, July 5, 2017 - link
This seems to have overlooked the fact that this card only has one port while Intel X540-based NICs with two ports can be had for $200~250. Yes, most people won't need the extra port and having *a* 10GBASE-T card for under $100 is great, but the price per port doesn't seem to be anything new.Similarly, the ASUS ASUS XG-U2008 switch mentioned only has two 10GBASE-T ports, so it's unclear the pricing is especially noteworthy beyond the context of the continuing drop in the price of 10GBASE-T equipment. (To be fair, a switch oriented for home use with *any* 10 GbE ports is somewhat novel, so it's hard to compare pricing here. Also, switches with 10 GbE SFP+ ports tend to be significantly less expensive than those specifically featuring 10GBASE-T, so it's really the latter that's notable in these instances.)