Doesn't look too bad! What I would change is the sparse 32GB SSD cache in the 2000 dollar model, had it been a 128GB cache (like the Surface Studio or 2TB Fusion Drive) it would be ok to have a rust drive in there.
Hypetane is so good that intel has to spam people with it, by bundling it with other products. Populating a slot with it would be a waste of the slot and PCIE lanes. It wouldn't really do much good to a gamer, unless he plays a single tame, and it is small enough to fit.
Also, it would have been nice if the touch version had some stylus support. For that kind of money it would have added value for particular markets. As it is the value is kinda low for what you get for the money.
If I'm not mistaken, that looks like the standard Dell $5 keyboard. I'd sell you the one they sent me with my workstation, but if you do much typing at all, I doubt you really want it. It's not even good by rubber dome standards - mushy keys.
I'm not an audiophile, so I have to ask, Is there a point of have 6/10 of the speakers place so closed together? From what I experienced, as an ordinary speaker user, It's not even be able to offer good stereo positioning if speakers are put so closed together.
If you can put a i7 7700 you can put a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 1700 which murder that outdated cpu for even less price. When will OEM's learn to just jump the AMD monster to increase their own profits.
For games, and most single-threaded (or not well-multithreaded) tasks, the i7-7700k still murders everything else. Ryzen shines when it comes to threading, and also price (can put the money on a better GPU), but if money is not an issue, get the i7-7700k for games.
Still the same excuse, that "huge difference" is 10% and in games if you got a 1080ti at peasant 1080p.
You like having 10% while losing 90% of extra cpu resources on a platform that will receives upgrades till 2020, and in just 2 months increades it's performance by 5-10% by bios/agesa updates?
The CPU which gives higher FPS than anything else when paired with a 1080 Ti is the Intel 7700K. Maybe that will change as developers learn to exploit DX12 but today that's the reality.
No question CPUs like the 1500X and 1600X are superb value, and I think the 1600X is the best value and best-balanced CPU going, but the 7700K *is* king for gaming when you're not constrained by your GPU.
The 7700k is about 20% faster for single threaded tasks period. Any user wondering on upgrading only needs to look at their CPU usage graphs on their bottlenecks. For content creators Ryzen is an easy choice, but for most workstation workloads the 7700k is the best choice.
Let's knock off the fanboi crap. It's only a computer part. Not sure how it defines your self worth. I'm happy that AMD is competitive. That is a good thing. For both AMD & Intel owners. But you can't just pick the metric you want to support the chip of your company. I couldn't care less about your love of AMD. Or Intel, for that matter.
when did they anounce single thread is gone? and intel cpu are like 10% faster ipc wise, if you take consideration of clock advantage which intel has gape can increase to 30% or more, all amd ryzen cpu can't reach 4.5ghz or more.
for example stock i7 7700k score around 195 in cinebench while ryzen score around 150, when overclocked 7700k reach 210 to 220 score. there is huge single thread perfomance gape between intel and Amd.
RX 570 is barely suitable for 1080p gaming. At 4k it will choke. At $2600 one can build 4k gaming monster with at least GTX 1080 if not 1080ti. Well good for Dell that most people don't read IT tech stuff and have not got a clue.
For someone to buy an all-in-one it means that the appearance of the work area is important. This is not a factor in your parent's basement, but it could be for people receiving clients or if the computer is in a visible area of the house (and you care about appearances).
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tipoo - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
Doesn't look too bad! What I would change is the sparse 32GB SSD cache in the 2000 dollar model, had it been a 128GB cache (like the Surface Studio or 2TB Fusion Drive) it would be ok to have a rust drive in there.frostyfiredude - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
At that size, maybe its Optane? One can hope anyway.tipoo - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
For the vast majority of uses, 5x the NAND for the same cost as optane would be better though.ddriver - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
Hypetane is so good that intel has to spam people with it, by bundling it with other products. Populating a slot with it would be a waste of the slot and PCIE lanes. It wouldn't really do much good to a gamer, unless he plays a single tame, and it is small enough to fit.Also, it would have been nice if the touch version had some stylus support. For that kind of money it would have added value for particular markets. As it is the value is kinda low for what you get for the money.
milkywayer - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
Any idea if I can get that keyboard separately?twtech - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
If I'm not mistaken, that looks like the standard Dell $5 keyboard. I'd sell you the one they sent me with my workstation, but if you do much typing at all, I doubt you really want it. It's not even good by rubber dome standards - mushy keys.DanNeely - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
Are those speaker ports on the front bezel or just go faster holes?WinterCharm - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
speakers.tipoo - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
Those are 6 of the 10 speakersgeekman1024 - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
I'm not an audiophile, so I have to ask, Is there a point of have 6/10 of the speakers place so closed together? From what I experienced, as an ordinary speaker user, It's not even be able to offer good stereo positioning if speakers are put so closed together.Hul8 - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
I wonder if the touch display works with stylus pens. If that is the case, this kind of a computer would make for a good computer for artist types.Yuriman - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
Ten one-inch speakers doesn't impress me all that much.damianrobertjones - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
It's not the size... it's the quality. Of course if you can have both... .tipoo - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
I mean, it's an all in one, they don't go much bigger.Lolimaster - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
If you can put a i7 7700 you can put a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 1700 which murder that outdated cpu for even less price. When will OEM's learn to just jump the AMD monster to increase their own profits.ajp_anton - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
For games, and most single-threaded (or not well-multithreaded) tasks, the i7-7700k still murders everything else. Ryzen shines when it comes to threading, and also price (can put the money on a better GPU), but if money is not an issue, get the i7-7700k for games.Lolimaster - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
Still the same excuse, that "huge difference" is 10% and in games if you got a 1080ti at peasant 1080p.You like having 10% while losing 90% of extra cpu resources on a platform that will receives upgrades till 2020, and in just 2 months increades it's performance by 5-10% by bios/agesa updates?
Makes no sense to me.
Lolimaster - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
Want a gaming cpu? Ryzen 5 1500X, 95% of the i7 7700 is gaming1500X $190
i7 7700 $320
Pay more to get 5-10fps more or 10% with high end gpu. Good thinking... keep being scammed by intel.
Zak - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
AMD fanboyism is really weird, though gets cute at times.Meteor2 - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
True.The CPU which gives higher FPS than anything else when paired with a 1080 Ti is the Intel 7700K. Maybe that will change as developers learn to exploit DX12 but today that's the reality.
No question CPUs like the 1500X and 1600X are superb value, and I think the 1600X is the best value and best-balanced CPU going, but the 7700K *is* king for gaming when you're not constrained by your GPU.
euler007 - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
The 7700k is about 20% faster for single threaded tasks period. Any user wondering on upgrading only needs to look at their CPU usage graphs on their bottlenecks. For content creators Ryzen is an easy choice, but for most workstation workloads the 7700k is the best choice.bigboxes - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
Let's knock off the fanboi crap. It's only a computer part. Not sure how it defines your self worth. I'm happy that AMD is competitive. That is a good thing. For both AMD & Intel owners. But you can't just pick the metric you want to support the chip of your company. I couldn't care less about your love of AMD. Or Intel, for that matter.Lolimaster - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
When the single thread performance is now gone, now they need to made it look like a huge mountain of 10%.In fact, just with a 1500X (which is basically the i7 6700 in performance) over the 7700-7770K, you cab get 2x570 in CF.
Meteor2 - Sunday, May 28, 2017 - link
What, in an AIO?hemedans - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
when did they anounce single thread is gone? and intel cpu are like 10% faster ipc wise, if you take consideration of clock advantage which intel has gape can increase to 30% or more, all amd ryzen cpu can't reach 4.5ghz or more.for example stock i7 7700k score around 195 in cinebench while ryzen score around 150, when overclocked 7700k reach 210 to 220 score. there is huge single thread perfomance gape between intel and Amd.
milkod2001 - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
RX 570 is barely suitable for 1080p gaming. At 4k it will choke. At $2600 one can build 4k gaming monster with at least GTX 1080 if not 1080ti. Well good for Dell that most people don't read IT tech stuff and have not got a clue.euler007 - Monday, May 29, 2017 - link
For someone to buy an all-in-one it means that the appearance of the work area is important. This is not a factor in your parent's basement, but it could be for people receiving clients or if the computer is in a visible area of the house (and you care about appearances).milkod2001 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
That is pure BS sir. If you care about appearance or want to impress clients you get 5K iMac for that.euler007 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
No.