wow, SFX market is seriously heating up. Also since most of these(Lian-Li has a ATX case with SFX psu) go in M-ITX cases 500W should be more than sufficient.
Clicking through to FSPs pages they're 500/600W max. The table has multiple errors (looks like a copypasta that wasn't fully updated), in addition to the two you saw +5Vsb is 2.5A on both models.
"Obviously the DIY market follows the industrial trend"
The DIY market LED - and indeed STILL leads - the industrial trend. A handful of manufacturers are finally moving from 'small form factor' cases that are the size of ATX cases (E.g. the infamous Bitfenix Prodigy) and actually starting to make some small cases, following on several years after things like the Ncase, but still technically behind more recent cases like the Dan A4, Zaber Sentry (sub 8L cases that can support full-length GPUs), and Kimera Cerberus (mATX case smaller than most ITX cases). Now manufacturers are waking up to SFX after several years, the DIY sector is already moving onto things like high-efficiency FlexATX units, and even separate AC- DC and DC-ATX units, in pursuit of lower case volumes.
Only problem with that one is the small 80mm slim fan, which makes a lot of noise in a quiet system--I modded the one I had (included with the early versions of the SG05/SG060) with a regular 80mm fan and it's a lot more quiet now.
FSP also OEM'd some versions of the ST45SF and ST30SF--both fairly well renowned SFX supplies.
In the ATX market several of their Aurum models have garnered great reviews, along with their HydroG models. While I can't say they're among the greatness of Seasonic or Super Flower, they certainly have their very good to excellent models which is no different from other OEMs like CWT, Enhance, or Great Wall who all have great builds in addition to other nothing-special or mediocre models.
I'm kinda curious what the accessory cables look like. 5 sata and 2 molex on two strands is a bit of an odd combination. All the sata's on one would be way more cable than most SFX builds need. Splitting the satas 2/3 would work reasonably well, but leaves the question of if they stuck a molex on each cable or are using SATA to Molex adapters similar to how most PSUs offer a single Berg connector for a floppy. I've seen a few of the latter but never in a standard accessory pack before
It's nice that companies are making (or at least marketing) more SFX PSUs these days--Corsair started in on this, and now there's new FSP models (who'd been marketing and OEMing SFX supplies for some time).
I remember back in the Core2 days when [good] SFX supplies were few and far between. I have a few now-old Enermax units that were pretty good. Back then they had units that were 250W, 270W, and 320W--older group regulated units no doubt an an efficiency range of like 70-80%, tops. Well outdated by today's standards, but still decent supplies for their size.
The 'problem' with these newer 500W+ SFX units is...what's the point *now*? These days 500W is enough to run a 7700K and a GTX 1080 (and it's not like you're gonna be making an SLI machine with the single-slot ITX boards most of the cases with SFX supply requirement accomodate).
The other thing is, pretty much all the mATX cases out there these days support ATX PSUs; and, a great deal of ITX cases support full ATX units as well.
It boggles the mind that PSU makers are now pushing the "number of Watts" capacity into these tiny little units in an age where PC components are continually taking less and less power as time goes on. These (and other high-wattage SFX supplies) would have been more appreciated in the C2Q or Bloomfield i7 days with GPUs like GTX 470/570/580 and HD 5870. Today though? Today we could go back to the 320W units, just with DC-DC and Gold or better efficiency, and it'd be a much better idea.
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Chaitanya - Saturday, April 1, 2017 - link
wow, SFX market is seriously heating up. Also since most of these(Lian-Li has a ATX case with SFX psu) go in M-ITX cases 500W should be more than sufficient.Death666Angel - Saturday, April 1, 2017 - link
It says 500 / 600 in product name. But it is rated for 550W / 650W. Weird. Should be enough for even 8C / 1080TI configurations, even overclocked.DanNeely - Sunday, April 2, 2017 - link
Clicking through to FSPs pages they're 500/600W max. The table has multiple errors (looks like a copypasta that wasn't fully updated), in addition to the two you saw +5Vsb is 2.5A on both models.edzieba - Saturday, April 1, 2017 - link
"Obviously the DIY market follows the industrial trend"The DIY market LED - and indeed STILL leads - the industrial trend. A handful of manufacturers are finally moving from 'small form factor' cases that are the size of ATX cases (E.g. the infamous Bitfenix Prodigy) and actually starting to make some small cases, following on several years after things like the Ncase, but still technically behind more recent cases like the Dan A4, Zaber Sentry (sub 8L cases that can support full-length GPUs), and Kimera Cerberus (mATX case smaller than most ITX cases). Now manufacturers are waking up to SFX after several years, the DIY sector is already moving onto things like high-efficiency FlexATX units, and even separate AC- DC and DC-ATX units, in pursuit of lower case volumes.
Diji1 - Monday, April 3, 2017 - link
Um, how is the DIY market "leading the industrial trend" if there's nothing to buy to make PCs from given that their leading according to you?bigboxes - Saturday, April 1, 2017 - link
FSP, never again.barleyguy - Sunday, April 2, 2017 - link
Was that an April fools joke?FSP is awesome. Also, if you buy something else there's a good chance FSP made it as the OEM anyway.
bigboxes - Sunday, April 2, 2017 - link
Not hardly. Unless Seasonic rebadges crap FSP units.ES_Revenge - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
FSP makes some very good supplies; and, they have been making good SFX supplies for some time. Case in point, Golden Award here: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fsp300-60ghs-power-...Only problem with that one is the small 80mm slim fan, which makes a lot of noise in a quiet system--I modded the one I had (included with the early versions of the SG05/SG060) with a regular 80mm fan and it's a lot more quiet now.
FSP also OEM'd some versions of the ST45SF and ST30SF--both fairly well renowned SFX supplies.
In the ATX market several of their Aurum models have garnered great reviews, along with their HydroG models. While I can't say they're among the greatness of Seasonic or Super Flower, they certainly have their very good to excellent models which is no different from other OEMs like CWT, Enhance, or Great Wall who all have great builds in addition to other nothing-special or mediocre models.
chubbyfatazn - Sunday, April 2, 2017 - link
Seems pretty weird to me that the 600W is only $10 more, but I ain't complaining...DanNeely - Sunday, April 2, 2017 - link
I'm kinda curious what the accessory cables look like. 5 sata and 2 molex on two strands is a bit of an odd combination. All the sata's on one would be way more cable than most SFX builds need. Splitting the satas 2/3 would work reasonably well, but leaves the question of if they stuck a molex on each cable or are using SATA to Molex adapters similar to how most PSUs offer a single Berg connector for a floppy. I've seen a few of the latter but never in a standard accessory pack beforeES_Revenge - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
It's nice that companies are making (or at least marketing) more SFX PSUs these days--Corsair started in on this, and now there's new FSP models (who'd been marketing and OEMing SFX supplies for some time).I remember back in the Core2 days when [good] SFX supplies were few and far between. I have a few now-old Enermax units that were pretty good. Back then they had units that were 250W, 270W, and 320W--older group regulated units no doubt an an efficiency range of like 70-80%, tops. Well outdated by today's standards, but still decent supplies for their size.
The 'problem' with these newer 500W+ SFX units is...what's the point *now*? These days 500W is enough to run a 7700K and a GTX 1080 (and it's not like you're gonna be making an SLI machine with the single-slot ITX boards most of the cases with SFX supply requirement accomodate).
The other thing is, pretty much all the mATX cases out there these days support ATX PSUs; and, a great deal of ITX cases support full ATX units as well.
It boggles the mind that PSU makers are now pushing the "number of Watts" capacity into these tiny little units in an age where PC components are continually taking less and less power as time goes on. These (and other high-wattage SFX supplies) would have been more appreciated in the C2Q or Bloomfield i7 days with GPUs like GTX 470/570/580 and HD 5870. Today though? Today we could go back to the 320W units, just with DC-DC and Gold or better efficiency, and it'd be a much better idea.
Eden-K121D - Friday, April 7, 2017 - link
A Ryzen 1800X at 4 Ghz with an overclocked GTX 1080Ti and Nvme SSD with a mini ITX motherboard can suck up to 450-500 watts at full loadES_Revenge - Saturday, April 15, 2017 - link
LOL Ryzen, nobody buys Ryzen for gaming.