this is years away from mainstream by then we have 5G (or whatever USA wants to rename it to as i would not be surprised if they call LTE 5G soon when they get LTE-A)
If only people stopped recycling the same pointless whining from 2007...
What exactly are YOUR alternatives, Eden-K121D and leexgx? Nothing changes for ten years then, at the stroke of midnight, the entire cellular infrastructure changes to a new spec and we all have to buy new phones simultaneously on that day?
Mis-matched incrementalism is more or less inevitable IMO due to the fragmented and decentralized nature of the market. Different carriers have different amounts of spectrum (both number of blocks and sizes of the blocks) and different willingness to spend on upgrading their infrastructure (eg VZW and ATT doing much larger LTE deployments early vs Sprint and TMobile's more limited rollouts when the hardware was newest and most expensive). You have the same factors on the consumer end, with light/budget users just wanting something that's cheap and works vs hardcore/heavy spending users wanting the absolute best and most capable device at any price.
"entire cellular infrastructure changes to a new spec" thats norm what happens like with 4G (real 4G for USA folk witch be LTE or 4G+ LTE-A)
it's nice that these new mobile chips are here just most network are not going to upgrade to use it until a new network technology comes out (most are setup for 150-300mb 4G spec) unless a specific location warranties the cost to do it,, like spots where there are very high amount of people in one spot still there phones need to support it to use it (like iphone 6 or samsung S7)
it be nice 5 years down the line though when it filters down into lower spec phones (or the high spec phones are cheap 2-3 years later)
There are advantages for everyone for the carriers to deploy the new tech -- if you can support 5x CA on the back end and then have phones out there striping their downloads across 5 channels that puts less load on each channel, so older phones that can support only less channels will actually see an improvement.
This is insane, the RF Front End is so much better then the previous generation. And X20 provides everything there is, I am not sure what's left to implement until 3GPP Rel 14 get released, which is All the Pre 5G work comes in.
And how is Intel going to catch up, it doesn't even have an chip to complete against X16. And X12 is better then what intel "will be" offering but on the market already.
And their own 14nm Fabed modem aren't schedule to arrive until 2018.
Intel will show the XMM7560 in a couple of hours, their first 14nm, let's see if they can give it to Apple in time for the iPhone 8 or if it will be a 2018 product. Anyway, Qualcomm continues to be the leading edge and I doubt Intel will ever be able to catch them.
I suppose flooding the 5GHz wifi band with enough conflicting LTE signals that it becomes borderline unusable for both wifi and all the cellular carriers will be seen as a feature by the ones that own the most exclusive spectrum since it will sell their more expensive data plans as the only option that works.
Meh...nothing really thrilling to see here. It looks like an incremental advancement and in a world of incremental advancements, this isn't something to get too excited about, at least from a consumer perspective anyway.
Was more or less my feeling when browsing suddenly happen quickly on my phone when I was in range of a newly upgraded base station. I was a bit puzzled and then I noticed the little "H" by the signal bars had become "LTE".
Seriously you're right, but a bunch of incremental changes snowball into a step change by the time it's delivered.
Do You plan to publish the information about the release of the Intel XMM 7560? I'd like to know if You think there is a chance to see this modem in the 2017 iPhones :D
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Eden-K121D - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
If only Networks supported this.A5 - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
The chips have always come first for RF stuff.leexgx - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
if only mobile phones supported this :)this is years away from mainstream by then we have 5G (or whatever USA wants to rename it to as i would not be surprised if they call LTE 5G soon when they get LTE-A)
name99 - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
If only people stopped recycling the same pointless whining from 2007...What exactly are YOUR alternatives, Eden-K121D and leexgx? Nothing changes for ten years then, at the stroke of midnight, the entire cellular infrastructure changes to a new spec and we all have to buy new phones simultaneously on that day?
Eden-K121D - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
I mean there should be an understanding between network infrastructure providers and network companies i.e some sort of synchronizationDanNeely - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
Mis-matched incrementalism is more or less inevitable IMO due to the fragmented and decentralized nature of the market. Different carriers have different amounts of spectrum (both number of blocks and sizes of the blocks) and different willingness to spend on upgrading their infrastructure (eg VZW and ATT doing much larger LTE deployments early vs Sprint and TMobile's more limited rollouts when the hardware was newest and most expensive). You have the same factors on the consumer end, with light/budget users just wanting something that's cheap and works vs hardcore/heavy spending users wanting the absolute best and most capable device at any price.leexgx - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
"entire cellular infrastructure changes to a new spec" thats norm what happens like with 4G (real 4G for USA folk witch be LTE or 4G+ LTE-A)it's nice that these new mobile chips are here just most network are not going to upgrade to use it until a new network technology comes out (most are setup for 150-300mb 4G spec) unless a specific location warranties the cost to do it,, like spots where there are very high amount of people in one spot still there phones need to support it to use it (like iphone 6 or samsung S7)
it be nice 5 years down the line though when it filters down into lower spec phones (or the high spec phones are cheap 2-3 years later)
extide - Monday, May 15, 2017 - link
There are advantages for everyone for the carriers to deploy the new tech -- if you can support 5x CA on the back end and then have phones out there striping their downloads across 5 channels that puts less load on each channel, so older phones that can support only less channels will actually see an improvement.iwod - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
This is insane, the RF Front End is so much better then the previous generation. And X20 provides everything there is, I am not sure what's left to implement until 3GPP Rel 14 get released, which is All the Pre 5G work comes in.And how is Intel going to catch up, it doesn't even have an chip to complete against X16. And X12 is better then what intel "will be" offering but on the market already.
And their own 14nm Fabed modem aren't schedule to arrive until 2018.
SydneyBlue120d - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
Intel will show the XMM7560 in a couple of hours, their first 14nm, let's see if they can give it to Apple in time for the iPhone 8 or if it will be a 2018 product. Anyway, Qualcomm continues to be the leading edge and I doubt Intel will ever be able to catch them.DanNeely - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
I suppose flooding the 5GHz wifi band with enough conflicting LTE signals that it becomes borderline unusable for both wifi and all the cellular carriers will be seen as a feature by the ones that own the most exclusive spectrum since it will sell their more expensive data plans as the only option that works.BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
Meh...nothing really thrilling to see here. It looks like an incremental advancement and in a world of incremental advancements, this isn't something to get too excited about, at least from a consumer perspective anyway.jayfang - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
LTE! LTE! LTE! whooo!Was more or less my feeling when browsing suddenly happen quickly on my phone when I was in range of a newly upgraded base station. I was a bit puzzled and then I noticed the little "H" by the signal bars had become "LTE".
Seriously you're right, but a bunch of incremental changes snowball into a step change by the time it's delivered.
leexgx - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
3G and 4G are not incremental changessseemaku - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
What is the max download speed any body saw in the US on their smart phones?Laststop311 - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
I hear ya but some 1 has to take the first step to making advancements or nothing will ever get improved.SydneyBlue120d - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
Do You plan to publish the information about the release of the Intel XMM 7560? I'd like to know if You think there is a chance to see this modem in the 2017 iPhones :D