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  • Agent Smith - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    What's the release date?
  • tipoo - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Today.
  • tipoo - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Interesting about scrolling performance, I wasn't sure if I was imagining it wasn't all it used to be. Great that Apple admitted and addressed it.
  • sonicmerlin - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Exactly. I thought I had noticed a tiny bit of judder while scrolling in safari on my 6S.

    I'm really glad to see Apple noticed this and put a lot of effort into fixing it. It may not seem like a big issue, but this is one of the biggest reasons I can't stand Android. The garbage collection hiccups and lack of pixel perfect smooth scrolling, especially while browsing heavy web pages or zooming in out and out of google maps, drives me nuts.
  • Ranger1065 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    That has to be one of the most pathetic examples of 1st world problems I've read.
  • milli - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Reminds me of many years ago when I had a Nokia N8. Its Symbian OS had much more features than what an iPhone had back then but ... the iPhone had smooth(-er) scrolling and looked prettier.
    We all know what happened. For humans: looks > usefulness
  • Brandon Chester - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Performance is a feature.
  • close - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    @milli. Because 5000 years of history showed that humans look *ONLY* for objective characteristics in anything and the iPhone somehow managed to break the pattern.

    @Ranger1065. Whatever *YOU* want or like can be considered a first world problem by someone else, right down to the fact that you're here complaining about what other people want or like.
  • Ranger1065 - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    LoL
  • rangerdavid - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    This.
  • sonicmerlin - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Really? Hiccups and frame drops make a powerful phone look weak. Smoothness adds to the sensation of fluidity of user experience. Aesthetics are a constant stimuli while using something as personal as a cell phone.
  • tipoo - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    We [probably] live in the first world, what else are we supposed to have?

    And nor does first world mean developed world.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
  • Ranger1065 - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    The fact that you feel the need to differentiate between the terms "first world" and "developed world" is symptomatic of a first world mindset, as is quoting Wikipedia as an authority.

    If people are seriously concerned about " a tiny bit of judder while scrolling in safari,"
    count yourselves lucky you don't have any real problems.

    I don't live in the first world and I don't give a damn about political correctness or terminological exactitude, when all it amounts to is splitting hairs....just for the record :)
  • star-affinity - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link

    I would't say I'm "seriously concerned" about those things, but when you're talking about a device that's beeing used extensively I absolutely think it's worth discussing user experience.

    Of course a lot of thing seems rediculous when looked at "the grand scale of things", but I still don't thing one thing has to exclude the other. It's always difficult to compare your own life to the rest of humanity, because there will probably always be someone who has a worse situation in life than you. So does that mean we shouldn't strive for quality and a good experience when using smartphones? I think not.
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    If you don't live in the "first world" perhaps you'd feel more at home at an Android site ;)
  • tipoo - Saturday, September 16, 2017 - link

    Or you could look up any other source you wanted with the information at your fingertips and find I'm right about the definition. First world just meant US and it's allies, second meant the USSR and it's allies, and third world meant unaligned. Not anything about riches or poverty.
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    I agree, it got so bad on my iPhone 6 plus about a month ago, that I got judder scrolling from one home screen to the next, so in a fury I went and bought an S7 Edge to play with until the iPhone 7 was released. It's actually very very smooth overall and if it integrated into the rest of my kit and Apple services (Apart from Apple Music) then I might consider using it. Overall, the tight design language throughout the hardware and the operating syMornistem and polished first party features made me order the iPhone 7.

    iPhone used to be the smoothest scroller and was a major factor in me staying on iPhone before iOS8 because I can't stand frame rate drops (I like my games 60+fps too) so this is also a big deal for the 7/iOS10 and how they choose to optimize in the future. The phone should never feel 'slow' in normal day to day operation using OOTB features...
  • lilmoe - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Also, take a look at those improved Javascript benchmarks, seems like iOS10 came with a CPU upgrade too!

    /s
  • Meteor2 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Now I know Anandtech won't do a day-of-release view of the iPhone 7, but when can we expect to see a review?
  • JoshHo - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    When it's done.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    "Soon™."
  • Dennis Travis - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    I am shocked someone did not badger them about the HTC10 review.
  • dsumanik - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I will save you the trouble of reading it:

    There will be pleasing photos of the new iphone held up in front of leafy trees, and closeups on top of a flat ironed grey cloth of a pristine black iphone with zero fingerprints. There will also be a token shot of the phone turned on underwater.

    Next it will address the loss of the lightning connector, saying that this will eventually be so much better for the industry as a whole (while completely ignoring a move to USB-C is what would have been for the 'greater good').

    Then it will go on to point out how many more things that have been improved that are getting overshadowed by the loss of the headphone jack and that the author really feels "this is the best iphone ever" and how wonderful the storage upgrade that should have happened 3 years ago is, really making the phone a much better value.

    The screen with "wide" color is going to be so amazing that it will be completely forgivable it's only 1080p. The new colors and minimized antennas will completely make up for the fact that the design hasn't changed in 3 years. It "really will feel like a new phone". Oh and the stereo audio is gong to be amazing. You will have to hear it in person to understand how loud and clear it is.

    Finally it will not mention that since the phone can play headphones with a simple adapter, there is in fact a DAC still on board, added to the fact that they crammed in another speaker in there it really makes the "we did it to save space" argument a total lie, because id sure as hell rather have a headphone jack than another speaker.

    In fact, the review will completely fail to mention that being as apple is a headphone company, if they truly were after 'a wireless future' they would simply stop manufacturing wired headphones, and could have done so years ago. It will completely ignore that stopping sales of traditional wired headphones would hurt beats profits, making the purchase of the company bad for stock holders, making this move the biggest form of hipocracy ever.

    But thats ok, it's for the best. You'll want the new iphone, headphones be damned. You know you will, and youll buy it because apple told you to buy it, because they know whats best for you and the anandtech review will just confirm what youve alredy believe:

    The iphone 7 is the best phone ever and it makes you a cooler, smarter person just for having one in your pocket.
  • m16 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    What on earth does that rant have to do with iOS? You're on the wrong article.
  • Dennis Travis - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Dude, sorry, you have lost it. And like was said this is the IOS10 review, NOT the iphone 7. Why the rant? Do you have proof Anandtech is paid to give Apples stuff great reviews, or could it quite possibly be they really do perform that well!! :D Grin
  • dsumanik - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    dude, thats what josh ho does for every iphone review, go read em lol...its supposed to be a joke
  • Notmyusualid - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    I enjoyed it!
  • Derjis - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Did you guys even bother reading the previous comments, or did you just immediately feel the need to jump in with a "GOTCHA!!!!"?
    dsumanik is responding to a comment about when Anandtech will have the iPhone7 review done.
  • bodonnell - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I'm so sick of people whining about the bloody headphone jack already. Don't like it, don't buy it.
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    @bodonnell - Exactly. Just like the people whining about the 16GB iPhone. Need more space? Then buy the fing 64GB model or go buy an Android. Problem solved.
  • Caliko - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    are these old farts still whining about mobile keyboards and floppy drives?
  • amosbatto - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    The problem is that every other phone maker is going to copy Apple as the trendsetter for the industry, so in two years it will be impossible to find a phone with an analog phone jack. Thee only way to stop it is to raise bloody hell now tolet the phone industry know that getting rid of it isn't acceptable.
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I feel like I just read the final thoughts of Josh's Apple articles. Thanks for saving me the time.
  • SaolDan - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Neat!
  • Caliko - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    What a moron. The human eye can't see a difference in resolution higher than 1080p in a screen that small. You can bet the only reason Apple even rounded up to 720p/1080p is to fit standards and compatibility.
  • Notmyusualid - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    @Caliko: I actually agree with you. Hence my new phone has a 1080p screen. No regrets whatsoever.
  • akdj - Thursday, September 22, 2016 - link

    Still has Lighting connection and the DAC's in the dongle (for headphones or external ⅛" audio link) -- not the Lightning port. There are DACs in board but for the speakers, not headphone listening through dongle.
    Sounds from DisplayMate, the 'only 1080p LCD' they tested was in fact the best display ever tested on any smartphone or tab.
    Go figure, as dpReview's initial reviews are calling it the best smartphone camera on the market
    Hmmm.
    Maybe they're all paid? Or maybe, like a billion purchases say, they're actually the BEST? Nahhh. Couldn't be
  • Ranger1065 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Lol.
  • fanta666 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Josh and what of htc 10. Been waiting since April
  • floppy-wallaby - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Be patient. It'll be out just before christmas.
  • hahmed330 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    That Trump meme or hairless orange guy on page 4 is awesome!
  • mirancar - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    How about battery life across different iOS ? has it improved/degraded or is +/- same compared to ios 9 ?
  • lilmoe - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    I previously thought that the increase in battery life of the new models were a direct result of processor improvements. But they're probably more a direct result of the increase in battery capacity. If so, then you should expect slightly less battery life on iOS 10 for the older models.

    That being said, things might even out because it looks like they've improved their view rendering so that the processor doesn't need to work as often, but this might impact RAM management in which other parts would need to reload more often.

    But what do I know. I usually go to Anandtech to check out actual tests for these things... oh wait...
  • berga_d - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    "El Psy Congroo"
  • Nozuka - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Best iOS 10 review i have seen so far. Learned alot of new things too. Thank you!
  • CMDMC12 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    WARNING

    Apparently installing iOS 10 via the OTA is failing on a myriad of devices, causing them to need to be restored via iTunes. Apple is recommending at the moment to only install the update via iTunes.

    Also be sure to backup your device before attempting to update.

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12904582/apple-i...

    https://twitter.com/AppleSupport/status/7757571857...
  • colonelclaw - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Unfortunately it goes without saying these days that I never install an OS update on the day of release. Not for iOS, macOS, Windows, Android, my TV, my PVR, my NAS, my router etc etc (I probably forgot a bunch of devices)
    I lived with all of them up until now, it's no problem to wait a day or two for the inevitable bug fixes.
  • Notmyusualid - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    @colonelclaw: Agreed. But not in every case. At one site, a Cisco router (enterprise grade, not consumer), running an old ios, and its HSRP partner is running the new v15 ios. The old ios router was constantly hacked, even with the strongest, most random password possible, and even with in-bound access lists bound to the VTY lines. It was really quite annoying. They were probing the network, and I could see the failed login attempts on other switches and even the Wireless Access Points. The v15 router stood up to the hack, the whole time.

    Sometimes updates are really useful...
  • Maltz - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Apple says this has been fixed. Still, I never install major updates over-the-air. I always connect to iTunes for anything beyond a bug fix point release.
  • Donkey2008 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    I did OTA upgrades to iOS 10 on both an iPhone 6 and an iPad Air at 11am PST this morning. Zero issues. Just sayin.
  • scamsel - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    when in the gd hell are they going to add the ability to specifically tag a photo? and how about updating airplay to simultaneous devices.
  • casperes1996 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Dunno what you mean about simultaneous AirPlay, but manual photo tagging is a thing already.
  • casperes1996 - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Or maybe not. I always thought you could do it by scrolling down to the details view, because you can do it on the Mac (cmd+i). Guess not. Weird.
  • sonicmerlin - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    I wonder if they'll ever expose a native filesystem... It gets really tiring working around the current labyrinthine system, and using cloud services isn't an option with large files on the go.
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Or you could upload those large files to say Dropbox and then save them offline. I work with a lot of large Visio and Excel files and this works just fine. With Delta sync only changes are uploaded back to DB (Goggle, Amazon and Microcrap cloud storage do NOT have delta sync by the way).

    Or if you meant taking large files with you to work on then way not buy one of these crazy new things called a memory stick.
  • Rod_Serling_Lives - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    I know this iOS 10 review of the changes is early, but I am already seeing the benefits of messages with the 3rd Party Apps. The ESPN and Venmo app are well implemented and my Easilydo E-Mail is integrated as well. It is really useful to have the functions accessible within the app itself.
  • ScottSoapbox - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    "Surprisingly, there isn't much of an uplift in JavaScript performance... it's not really a surprised [sic] that the pace has slowed down." :/
  • Ryan Smith - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    Thanks!
  • TheRealQwertyJuan - Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - link

    So where's the Android Nougat (7.0) article??
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    They have to wait 8 months before their carrier releases the Nougat update for their Android devices.
  • Devo2007 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    On page 2 when talking about Control Center, you got the iOS version numbers mixed up. You reference iOS 7,8,9 when I'm guessing it should be 8, 9, 10 (was Control Center in iOS 7?)
  • Devo2007 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Ok, Control Center was in iOS 7. I just got my first iOS device last week. The middle screenshot looks like iOS 9 though, so the text is still a bit confusing
  • Brandon Chester - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    They're in order on my browser at least. The left is iOS 7, with borders around icons, the middle is iOS 8 where they use a different UIVisualEffectView, and the right is iOS 9 where it's a floating card.
  • Devo2007 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    The floating card one on the right is iOS 10 - not 9.

    "
    In iOS 9, the buttons are now even more distinct, with an ExtraLight VisualEffectView being used for the background and the buttons using something closer to the Light VisualEffectView setting. It's now much more obvious when buttons are selected as well, with the fill color being blue and the inner glyph changing from black to white."

    ^That description seems to apply to the Control Center in iOS 10 - not 9. This is the only part that seems to be in error; I'm guessing the actual look of control center didn't change much from iOS 8 to iOS 9.
  • Brandon Chester - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Somehow I made the same typo in my comment as I did in the article. Yes, it's iOS 10 on the right, and I've fixed the typo. Sorry for being so confusing.
  • pencea - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Funny thing is whenever it comes to anything related to Apple, Anandtech reviews comes out in a timeline manner.

    While anything else such Samsung phones, graphics cards..etc reviews are always late.
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    So maybe you should go start your own website instead of crying about how unfair the internet is. Boo hoo.
  • pencea - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    You obviously have reading comprehension issues. I specifically said "Anandtech" not the internet.
    Boo hoo
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    If they are so biased toward Apple then why do you bother coming here? It's like someone who goes into McDonalds to complain that fast food sucks. Do you need attention like an infant?
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Nice job Donkey, your check from Apple is in the mail.
  • damianrobertjones - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Cash. Money. The usual. Bills have to be paid. The days of complete, free, impartial journalism died years back. The Verge and Engadget being the worst of the many. I see a web page design in the future for Anandtech.
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    Because people click on the articles more, would be my guess? I scanned the whole site for the iPhone 7 review and clicked on another apple article on iOS10 when I couldn't find it. This is actually a good technical review by somebody who clearly knows the OS inside out, so I've got no problem with it.
  • ABR - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    The overall UI smoothness improvement is really noticeable on an iPad Air 2. It's a really shame this is the release they decided to cut support for iPad 2 and that era devices, because those are just the ones that became truly unusable starting with iOS 8. Thinking charitably, it could be that dropping the support is one of the things that helped improve the performance, or, more cynically, maybe it's just part of their plan to continue encouraging purchase of new devices.
  • tipoo - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Yeah, even if they dropped all the new features, the performance improvements would have been huge for A5 devices. In fact I wouldn't mind if they stripped the OS as much as they could to get A5 smooth again, but of course they're not going to do such an undertaking for the old chip.
  • tipoo - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    The worst thing about it is no OS security updates for older OSs, so you're forced to either go insecure, or get a dog slow OS on your formerly decent hardware. There's also no easy downgrade mechanism.
  • m16 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I'm very impressed with the update, really snappy. I'm even more impressed that all my apps work, but I don't have any fancy apps outside of some photography apps that control the aperture.

    I wish they'd brought back notification center social media posting. I mean, OS X Capitan has it!!! It had it back on the iOS 7 days.

    Anyone else thinking this should be back should go to apple's feedback page on either iOS or the iPhone/iPad and request the feature back.
  • yhselp - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I'm very glad Apple have seemingly fixed performance and UI issues for the 5s compared to iOS 9.

    After upgrading yesterday I was pleasantly surprised. At least for now. I hope I don't jinx it. The 5s is now noticeably smoother; navigating menus, multitasking, and general use overall is now more in line with how fast it used to be on iOS 8. In-app performance seems to have improved as well; I specifically tested an app that used to work great on iOS 8, then ran poorly on iOS 9, and now seems to work great again on iOS 10. Furthermore, the UI itself is now better optimized for a 4-inch display - not only is it better than iOS 9, but there are also improvement over how it used to be on iOS 8.

    So far so good then. Haven't encountered any major hitches, and battery life seems to be holding up. Still, some things are sometimes actually slower than how I remember them from iOS 8, but the opposite is true as well - sometimes the 5s feels faster than ever. Overall, so far, I'd say the smoothness is on par with iOS 8.

    One thing that still baffles me is the Music app. I still pretty much hate it, although it's an improvement over iOS 9 both in terms of usability and 4-inch friendliness. Maybe it's better suited to how most people seem to consume music nowadays - internet music, music services, etc. I can't believe that so few people listen to music in a more traditional way that it's worth ignoring them. Why is it so hard for Apple to at least offer more control over how the music library is sorted? I want to be able to browse by artist, tap on a band, and see all their songs I have on my device in one place with little bars above every group indicating which albums they're from; just as it used to be, and not how it is now. On top of that, the Music app is now less sexy than ever, there's no cover flow at all (at least, I can't seem to find it), and the UI can still get unnecessarily cluttered on a 4-inch display. For me, the best Music app would be a hybrid of how it used to look on iPhone 5 running iOS 6 with some of the improvements from iOS 7 and 8.
  • yhselp - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    I can't help but think - thank God they made the SE, because without it iOS 10 might not have been as 4-inch friendly as it is.

    I'd be very much interested to hear any impressions on how iOS 10 works on iPhone 5/5c.
  • yhselp - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Update: One important thing that has seen a downgrade, in my opinion, is notification banners. When you're doing something, and someone sends you a message the banner that appears on the top of the screen is bigger, gets in the way, and it's harder to reply quickly without opening the Messages app - pulling down the banner is harder, and once done it takes up to whole screen.

    For me, that is a major downgrade as it makes banner more obtrusive on a 4" device, and make it hard to reply to messages quickly. I understand it might have been made in a bid to improve visibility on 4" devices, but I don't think it was the right call.

    This might prove to be iOS 10's Achilles' heel on 4" devices. I would very much like to see it fixed.
  • mdriftmeyer - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    You'd be wrong. Works great on my iPhone 5s. Notifications now are more easily flipped through and understood at quick glances.
  • yhselp - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Most definitely; I agree, but I was not talking about notifications, I was talking about notification banners. Banners are a type of notification that pops up at the top of the screen when you're using the device, as opposed to when it's in your pocket. Like when you receive a message while browsing in Safari, for example. Those used to be slick, took little space, and were very easy to respond to or dismiss without opening Messages. Now they're large bubbles, it takes more swiping to interact with them, and when engaged open in full-screen on the 4-inch devices. Since I frequently send quick replies while doing other stuff, life is definitely harder for me now. How about you? Do you find banners better or worse in iOS 10 on your 5s and why?
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    The notifications are definitely bigger but not a showstopper IMO.
  • lilmoe - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    Glad things worked out just like you wanted, or at least close.
    You mention that the battery life is holding up. Would you say it's the same as before? Little less or little more?
    My friends are asking me constantly whether they should update. I told them to hold out for a bit, and I'm glad I did after the bricking thing (which should be fixed now).
  • yhselp - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    Hey. The battery life has kept holding up on the 5s. By this point, I highly suspect it's not going to be something to worry about. I'm pretty sure I'm imagining it, but I have a feeling I've been getting just a bit more battery life, or perhaps slower drain under some circumstances, which, in turn, might be offset by others; besides, you never know how the OS is reporting battery charge. Short and to the point: I would say it's the same as before. My SO hasn't had any trouble with the 6s either.

    I just can't get over the fact that these cards or bubbles, as the reviewer calls them, have been used throughout the whole OS. They work great for widgets, and similarly so in Notification Center, however, I can't overstate how much worse banners can be on any device. I think it's worth warning your friends about this. If they're used to sending quick replies by engaging banners, they might end up very irritated by iOS 10. The way it used to work is you got a banner at the top of the screen with the contents of a message you've just received while doing something else like browsing the web; if you wanted to send out a quick reply without exiting Safari and opening the Messages app, all you had to do is pull down the banner - it would extend just a little bit to reveal a text box, the keyboard would appear - type a reply and hit send upon which the whole thing would immediately disappear, leaving you to do whatever it is that you were doing. There's no need to explain why this used to be an extremely efficient way of sending out replies. The way things work now is the following: firstly, the banner is unnecessarily bigger and it's actually hard to understand where you need to pull; secondly, pulling itself takes more effort, almost as if Apple are trying to prevent accidental pulls by making it so you have to pull down farther; thridly, upon pulling down the banner you're sent into a full-screen view; finally, and most disappointingly, when you hit send the whole thing does not disappear, it just stays there, and you have to dismiss it manually. So, essentially, there're no quick replies on iOS 10. It's virtually the same to just tap on the banner, go Messages, reply, and then go back to Safari or whatever you were using. It's absolutely baffling why this was overlooked, or even worse - why Apple decided to do away with it. It's definitely a pain for me, I hope Apple come to their senses and reintroduce this properly.

    "Cards" are not so great for displaying missed calls/messages on the lock screen. I've failed to return a call from the lock screen more than once now, and have instead swiped left to widgets. On a 4-inch iPhone, cards take up took much space on the lock screen when displaying missed calls/messages, as well as when they appear as banners at the top of the screen.

    Hope I've been helpful.
  • lilmoe - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    -- "I think it's worth warning your friends about this [banners]"
    It probably is, and I'll be sure to point it out. As long as performance is improved and battery life isn't compromised, I'm sure it's better to update, for the security enhancements at least.

    -- "Hope I've been helpful."
    You sure are :) Thanks for the detailed reply. I appreciate actual user feedback much more than redundant "all hail" PR.
  • Teknobug - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Apple: With iOS 10 we're bricking your old iPhone and we have the iPhone 7 available for upgrade.
  • Donkey2008 - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Google: Want the newest Android version for your phone? Buy a new Android phone. Although your carrier *might* release the update in a year or two.

    The difference; Your Apple conspiracy is just a joke whereas the Google conspiracy is real.
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Nice job again Donkey! I hope Apple pays you by the word!
  • yhselp - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Yeah, except it's usually vendors, like Samsung, that decide against releasing new versions of Android for their older devices, and not Google.
  • Teknobug - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Samsung update the 2 year old S5, HTC and LG updates some older phones too. At least most Androids don't cost $800-1000 when you need to get a new one.
  • ApePriori - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    $399 for a 16GB SE, $549 for a 32GB 6s, $649 for a 32GB 7. More storage and Plus models will bump the price of course, but let's not pretend there are no options unless you spend over $800 dollars.
  • Lavkesh - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Which is why Samsung isnt Android. They are a memory leak laden software mess.
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    Luckily for Samsung, their phones are just *exploding* in popularity so you probably don't need to worry about upgrading your S7 or Note 7 in 2 years because it will have been recalled.
  • Teknobug - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    Getting an Android through phone carrier causes the longer update times. If you get an Android phone directly from Google or directly from the manufacturer then updates comes pretty quick. Lenovo is the only one that dumped security updates.
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    Yes, it's just a shame that most consumers won't be buying their phones in this way so it's still a massive problem, more from a security perspective, for Android.
  • Lavkesh - Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - link

    And the fact that Nexus 5 isnt getting the Nougat update but much inferior hardware Android One devices are! So much so for dont be evil!
  • Xinn3r - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    1. Maps also receives some really helpful widgets, including one for transit which allows you to check if there are any service advisories on your favorite transit lines, which has already helped me avoid delays due to subway and streetcar closures that I would not have thought to check for otherwise.

    I assume this is Google's map instead of Apple? Because I do have that widget for Google Map instead of Apple's own Map.

    2. In Notification Center you have a blurred background, and on the lock screen you get the current time and battery charge rather than the date.

    In your screenshot of the lock screen, you get current time and date instead of battery charge. I'm also not seeing the battery charge on my lock screen widget.
  • BulkSlash - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    Really awesome review, as an iOS developer it's really great to see a review that focuses on API changes and the benefits they can bring to coders. More of this sort of thing please! :)

    It would be great to get Xcode on the iPad so I can quickly test out ideas on apps I'm developing if I have a flash of inspiration in the night or something. I definitely see the problems with security though, and also installing things like CocoaPods would be problematic.

    I also agree that the way Android handles animations is not good, I'm currently writing an Android app and video animations are currently impossible because the video goes blank during animations! It never does that in iOS!
  • [email protected] - Thursday, September 15, 2016 - link

    nothing interesting or new... Android has had those features/customization for YEARS and Years.

    and Crapple is still not customizable.
  • damianrobertjones - Monday, September 19, 2016 - link

    Maybe the standard user doesn't care to customize anything!?
  • robinthakur - Friday, September 23, 2016 - link

    Exactly, I have an S7 edge currently until my iPhone 7 arrives, and what have I customized? Widgets on the home screen and layouts, nothing else. What equivalent does Google have for Swift Playgrounds which is as polished and useful, pray tell? The polish is what gets users using the features rather than being hidden in Android somewhere. e.g. Apple Pay vs Android Pay, there is no comparison.
  • jdickey - Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - link

    If you have a phone older than an iPhone 6 (maybe even 6s), beware.

    On my 5c, notifications are continually getting messed up. Many apps' notifications don't show up in Notification Centre, and you won't know they're there until you unlock the phone. (Great for people sending you dozens of IMs asking "why aren't you replying?!?") Once you do unlock the phone, notifications often get "stuck"; I once had a Facebook IM "(Your friend) has sent you a message" notification that didn't go away for DAYS after I'd already replied to the message.

    Typing is slower than in iOS 9, and the keyboard often "freezes" with a key highlighted as it normally is when you touch it. Three or four seconds later, any keys you've typed since getting "stuck" play back as though nothing had happened and you intended to type 'a' 35 times.

    I'm seeing these and other problems that I never saw before with iOS 9 betas, let alone official releases. For a company that BUILT ITS BRAND on quality and on the primacy of customer experience, iOS 10 is an appalling reminder of how things can Go Horribly Wrong.

    Here's hoping that a 10.1 update comes out SOON and fixes more existing issues than it creates new ones. The Apple from five years ago would never have released a system in this state. I'm not holding my breath waiting for improvement. The main reason I continue to be an iPhone customer is that most of the direct competition I see (e.g., Samsung) have even steeper downsides.
  • korben44 - Thursday, September 22, 2016 - link

    I had an iPhone 6 for about a week.... Sold it and went back to my Lumia 950 XL. Windows 10 Mobile is just better, in my opinion. Again, that's just my opinion. I had ios 10 from beta to release and still feel the same way. Meh.
  • SomeDude2552 - Saturday, October 1, 2016 - link

    FaggotryTech with another article about FagOS. Amazing.
  • Bolang - Thursday, December 1, 2016 - link

    iOS 10 is best.

    http://freeiphone7plusgiveaway.win/
  • jasonwilliams016 - Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - link

    Thanks for the review. Please let me know the
    <a href="http://www.ios11guide.com/">iOS 11</a> release date and review it soon.
  • oranos - Saturday, February 11, 2017 - link

    It's too late. Android has now surpassed in all relevant categories. Experience, features, smoothness. There is no more catching up for apple. The spread will only get worse now.
  • arvinzx20 - Monday, March 13, 2017 - link

    Base in my experience IOS 10 is good latest update of apple and i think ios 11 will also release this year..

    www.hackcollection.xyz/2016/09/free-iphone-7-plus-giveaway-2017.html
  • arvinzx20 - Monday, March 13, 2017 - link

    When ios 7 is release before they have many bugs in this version unlike right now ios 10 still the best.

    http://www.hackcollection.xyz/2016/09/free-iphone-...
  • Punit - Saturday, July 1, 2017 - link

    hi
  • Punit - Saturday, July 1, 2017 - link

    hi
  • Selim Reza - Monday, October 22, 2018 - link


    There's a very good chance that you've already installed iOS 10, the latest operating system for Apple's iPhone and iPad. Apple is much better at getting devices upgraded consistently than Google.
    Check out a notification app for developer here: https://catlight.io
  • jmartein - Friday, March 22, 2019 - link

    In the UK and Europe Android has a much larger foothold in the mid and upper markets than it does in the US. So a lot of the new OS gains are worthless when at least half your friends run Android phones. I haven’t used iMessenger at all for months

    It has sped up my iPad Air 2 though I’ll give it that, though introduced bugs in some third party apps that are yet to roll out updates, slow coaches

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